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Posted by: adasilva - 11-01-18, 06:39 PM - Forum: Introduction
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Hello all.
I am delighted to be joining this club! Thanks.
I have a Fazer 600 2002 for a little more than a year now and i must say... I love that machine!
So here is my first post and hope it might help someone out there as i spent quite time on the web looking for a solution to my problem..
A few weeks ago, i was driving home when in noticed that my RPM counter needle was dropping to zero now and then. I first thought it was my imagination but after a while i was assure that i was not going crazy or blind.
I bought this bike from the original owner that took a good care of it, and the only thing i had to change was those damn downpipes as they were more like swiss cheese. I bought a brand new stainless steel downpipes and fitted them myself. So there and then i thought that could be the issue.
Headed straight to google to try to figure out and after hours searching, found out that the most likely cause of this issue was the TPS.
TPS!!! Says I? what the heck is this? :'(
Back again to google, spent a few more hours until i completed understood what TPS stands for, what was its job and how i could test this to verify if my one was faulty.
Now not going into details how you can do this but if one is wondering is very simple procedure
- turn the ignition on - don't turn the bike on. With the ignition on unplug the TPS from the Carburetor. (If you were like me, that did not know where it was located is just attached to the right-side of the carbs.)
Once you do that, you are in the testing modal and the RPM will go from 0 to 3. Plug it back again. Now if the RPM goes to 5 and stays there the TPS is fine, if stays in 0 you need to adjust it to stay on 5 by turning the TPS clockwise. If stays in 10 turn it anticlockwise until stays in 5.
Problem with mine is that i could not set it to stay at 5. It either went to 10 then 0 or stayed at zero. :'(
So back again to google to try to find a replacement, and that my friends was the worse experience that i had in google :'( :'(
If you search for the following "Yamaha Fazer 600 2002 TPS or Throttle Position Sensor" you will get lots of results. The problem is that not all the results are specific to this version of Fazer. The one on my bike had A1 stamped into it and most on the net says A2 or A3 And better yet! when you do find one it will cost you £120.00 and since i am in Ireland 20 more to post. £140.00 :eek
Most of the TPS that you will find is made by Mikuni and Yamaha use different sensors on different machines. But what struck me was that while searching for the right one i found this article http://bikesandtravels.com/biker.aspx?ride=201
Here the guy had the same issue as mine. He made a good point that maybe or just maybe some machines might use the same sensor specifications. In his article he talks about a TDM 850 and the Yamaha XJR 1300 and a few others. But the problem is that there is no mention of the year and i had noticed on my research that different year have different specifications for the same machine.
So i download the service manual for XJR 20002 and TDM 1996 and what i found was that the resistance of the TDM 850 is the same as the Fazer 600 2002. In fact on the manual the instructions to check the resistance on both these machines are the same specification.
Better yet! The TPS for the TDM cost £70 :lol
So i was now more confident that this was the right thing to do and I bought a brand new TDM 1996 A2 102 TPS and installed on the bike. Had no problems adjusting it to 5000 RPM and making sure it stayed there.
Couple days passed since i installed this as the weather did not allow me to go out and try it.
Today i just had this chance.
First the bike turned on with half of the choke opened. Something that it was not doing before. Also the idle speed stay steady and not going up and down like was doing. I had to reset the idle speed. I know that the recommendation is to do that before adjusting it - so i took it out again after resetting the idle speed and checked if 5000 RPM was the default.
Then went for a spin...
The bike is a totally different bike now. It is more responsive. In low gears it does not jerk or i have to really play with the clutch. It seems to even have increased the power.
I am very happy now!
I don't regret the time spent researching this issue as this just added another * under my belt.
I don't claim to be a mechanic but a bike enthusiastic, and what worked for me not necessary work for you but I hope this can help anyone out there that has the same issue.
Adriano.
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Posted by: russprice - 10-01-18, 06:49 PM - Forum: FZS600 Fazer
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hi all ive just bought a fazer 600 1998 model and noticed that there was a hole in underside of the exhaust between the hanger bracket and the link pipe to end can . i filled this as i thought it was a rot hole now the link pipe joint is blowing and passing condensation, was the hole i filled a condensation hole and supposed to be there ? should i redrill it think it was about 2 mm and thinking about it looked to round to be rot :S any help would be appreciated thx russ
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Posted by: DILLIGAFF - 10-01-18, 11:59 AM - Forum: General
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Young girl at my local was moaning about her car breaking down on the M25. She said she thought it was "pulling a bit to the left"
A passing motorist flagged her down and her nearside tyre was deflated and completely split in two and must have been running on the rim.
I blame power steering and all the other modern comforts which isolate drivers from all the "feel" of todays cars.
Maybe its just another reason why you guys still love biking.
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Posted by: Mustang - 09-01-18, 06:50 PM - Forum: Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner
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Decided it starts today , list of jobs: remove AIS, check valve clearances, remove carbs and airbox, remove exhaust and paint engine, replace carb to head rubbers, balance carbs.
So far I've followed the guides on pats page, dropped the coolant - it was just rusty water no antifreeze, removed the AIS and tapped the exhaust ports. That was a pig of a job with such restricted space, I feared my tap was going to snap but I managed it in the end and cut down some M8 cap screws to 10mm to go in.
Front of the engine is filthy so I'm soaking the exhaust nuts overnight as they will have to come off for access.
Does anyone have a blanking cap for the airbox I could buy?
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Posted by: dale - 08-01-18, 10:41 PM - Forum: Introduction
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Firstly, black Fazers are the fastest, i'll make that clear from the start!!
Cumbrian by default, Lancastrian at heart. Current bike, which i've had for about ten years, is a '98 FZS 600. I'm always taking it to bits and putting it back together, sometimes quite successfully!
Had a bike since i was a kid, scrambling was my thing on a very used yz 125. Progressed onto a fizzer, dallied with DT'S then went on a journey through the RD's. Bought an SR 500 single, rode it twice then sold it within a week. Clearly the worst yamaha ever produced.
Anyway, great site with endless help which i like. Good to be here.
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Posted by: darrsi - 08-01-18, 02:07 PM - Forum: General
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Has anyone on here had any issues with NGK plugs breaking down quicker than they should?
Went to go back to work this morning and after eventually getting the bike to start it ran like a total pig.
I cleaned the K&N filter while i was off so backtracked in case i’d kinked a pipe or something but after messing about for a couple of hours trying this and that in the cold i gave up and spoke to my mechanic, and after explaining what i’d already checked he said to try new plugs, regardless of how new my ones were.
My plugs were put in 3000 miles ago and are NGK Iridium with a life expectancy of 40-50K.
I’d kept my old set and once swapped over everythiing ran as sweet as a nut.
I don’t remember ever having a set of plugs fail on me so didn’t actually recognize the symptoms to be honest, so it was a learning curve anyway, but must admit i was not too impressed with them failing that quick.
He did mention that although they still are one of the best brands out there, he has noticed a drop in quality, no doubt due to manfacturers saving a few quid here and there.
Worth knowing in case you encounter any similar issues.
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