Scrotes on E bikes an upside ?

[fazersharp]

I saw a group of around 12 year olds heading into town on their pushbikes all on and off the pavement inbetween cars (trying to wheelie _ you get the picture - but everyone of them were wearing helmets - some full face. The seem to be aping their older scrote brothers. It was the fact they were all wearing helmets which seem to of become a fashion item, all be it probably a way of hiding their face. But none the less its a good thing that they are wearing them.
Then we have the older proper scrotes riding like tits, got me thinking that by the time they are old enough to have a real bike hey will of got all of that nonsense out of their system and will have a lot of bike handling knowledge and be better motorbike riders - or at least the ones that darwin hasn’t already taken care of.

[BBROWN1664]

I dont know why they dont get real mopeds that are then legal and cheaper

[agricola]

Your mention of the older type of scrotes reminded me of a news item I saw last week, where a motor car driver deliberately rammed one such individual and killed him. The rider was on an electric bicycle or motorcycle (the news item didn't specify which) and was performing wheelies in the road. The driver took offence and rammed him. The rider was not wearing a helmet. What wound me up was that the news item described the deceased as a "biker". The news item showed a short video of the "biker" performing wheelies immediately prior to the incident. To me , it looked like he was on an electric cycle and the item should have described him as a cyclist, but I suppose anyone just reading the headline would assume it was just another one of those noisy motorcyclists showing off and causing trouble.

[fazersharp]

Your mention of the older type of scrotes reminded me of a news item I saw last week, where a motor car driver deliberately rammed one such individual and killed him. The rider was on an electric bicycle or motorcycle (the news item didn't specify which) and was performing wheelies in the road. The driver took offence and rammed him. The rider was not wearing a helmet. What wound me up was that the news item described the deceased as a "biker". The news item showed a short video of the "biker" performing wheelies immediately prior to the incident. To me , it looked like he was on an electric cycle and the item should have described him as a cyclist, but I suppose anyone just reading the headline would assume it was just another one of those noisy motorcyclists showing off and causing trouble.

Yey lazy reporting. But I have also never understood why when it is a motorbike they feel the need to mention the make.

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I dont know why they dont get real mopeds that are then legal and cheaper

Under age probably or its not cheaper with tax and insurance.

[agricola]

Yes, a motorcyclist was killed 4 miles from my house last week, the car driver was arrested and then released on bail, the press release said the motorcyclist was a 50 year old male riding an Armstrong. I believe that dates the bike into the 60s or 70s, so probably a classic bike rider out on a bimble. So sad.

[darrsi]

Nobody gonna mention the current major issues with food delivery riders causing carnage on the roads?
They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad and are becoming a menace to all with their total lack of respect for any other road user, or even pedestrians.
Since i've been back on the bike in the last few months i've lost count of how many times they've gone past me whilst i'm sitting and waiting in traffic then they'll cut me up and stop right across my path in front of me, and then while i'm concentrating on that one another will fly up my inside as i'm about to pull away in what little space i have left then i'll watch them goad the next drivers one or two ahead of me by sitting in their blind spot inches from the rear of their vehicle before weaving up their inside too without warning.  
We've had decades of trying to get it through to bikers that undertaking is a terrible idea that can result in avoidable injuries yet all of a sudden that genuinely decent info and the rule book seems to have been pushed aside for an "anything goes" mentality.

On that note as well, on the way to work last week i was waiting behind a car for a pedestrian to cross on a zebra crossing, and yet again a push bike rider flies past me and the car then literally scathes right past the pedestrian innocently crossing the road, but then some arrogant twat on one of those electric green Lime bikes shoots up my inside, then up onto the pavement to avoid the zebra crossing but obviously never saw the huge double decker red bus letting people off it, and i watched some poor sod get off the bus but looked to his right while doing so which is fair enough seeing as it's a pavement in front of him, and at that exact moment the twunt on the very heavy electric bike hit him full on.
That simply should never happen.
The bloke on the bike barely stopped and just carried on riding like he'd stolen it, or was trying to keep the costs down for hire, yet the bus passenger walked towards me to also cross the road looking very winded and like he'd just been Tango'd.

Quite clearly these heavy pushbike, scooter and delivery motorbike riders are changing the ways we've got used to in a very short space of time through a clear lack of everything, and something needs to be done for safety reasons, yet due to the speeds they do policing them is almost impossible at the moment, because they're off and gone in the time it takes to say "Steal my phone. 

[Grahamm]

Nobody gonna mention the current major issues with food delivery riders causing carnage on the roads?
They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad and are becoming a menace to all with their total lack of respect for any other road user, or even pedestrians.

Right, so how does that explain, for example, the two white lads riding illegal e-bikes who, on separate occasions a couple of days ago, I saw pulling wheelies in traffic on main roads in Portsmouth...? (And there have been plenty of other examples  too.)

The real problems are 1) It's not illegal to buy an e-bike in this country which isn't supposed to be used on the roads but still is and 2) Lack of enforcement caused by there being insufficient Police.

Until we fix those problems, nothing is going to change.

[agricola]

Nobody gonna mention the current major issues with food delivery riders causing carnage on the roads?
They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad and are becoming a menace to all with their total lack of respect for any other road user, or even pedestrians.

Right, so how does that explain, for example, the two white lads riding illegal e-bikes who, on separate occasions a couple of days ago, I saw pulling wheelies in traffic on main roads in Portsmouth...? (And there have been plenty of other examples  too.)

The real problems are 1) It's not illegal to buy an e-bike in this country which isn't supposed to be used on the roads but still is and 2) Lack of enforcement caused by there being insufficient Police.

Until we fix those problems, nothing is going to change.

Easy to explain away Grahamm;

Lack of intelligence
Lack of responsibility
Lack of personal safety
Lack of discipline
Lack of parental care/oversight
Lack of respect
Lack of enforcement
Lack of deterrence
Lack of a government with the bollocks to tackle any of the problems currently dragging the nation into an abyss

and why do you always have to bring colour into any discussion?

[Grahamm]

Easy to explain away Grahamm;

Lack of intelligence
Lack of responsibility
Lack of personal safety
Lack of discipline
Lack of parental care/oversight
Lack of respect
Lack of enforcement
Lack of deterrence
Lack of a government with the bollocks to tackle any of the problems currently dragging the nation into an abyss

So are you going to support tax increases to improve education, improve childcare, reduce the need for parents to work all hours simply to pay the bills and keep a roof over their children's heads and, instead, spend more time with their kids and increase the number of Police on our streets?

Of course people could always vote for a populist Party who will say anything they think people want to hear in order to get into power...

and why do you always have to bring colour into any discussion?

Please could you remind me who was it who said "They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"?

[darrsi]

Nope....still can't see any colour mentioned there?

[agricola]

Easy to explain away Grahamm;

Lack of intelligence
Lack of responsibility
Lack of personal safety
Lack of discipline
Lack of parental care/oversight
Lack of respect
Lack of enforcement
Lack of deterrence
Lack of a government with the bollocks to tackle any of the problems currently dragging the nation into an abyss

So are you going to support tax increases to improve education, improve childcare, reduce the need for parents to work all hours simply to pay the bills and keep a roof over their children's heads and, instead, spend more time with their kids and increase the number of Police on our streets?

Of course people could always vote for a populist Party who will say anything they think people want to hear in order to get into power...

and why do you always have to bring colour into any discussion?

Please could you remind me who was it who said "They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"?

The present government has already pledged to " improve education, improve childcare, reduce the need for parents to work all hours simply to pay the bills and keep a roof over their children's heads and, instead, spend more time with their kids and increase the number of Police on our streets?" in the run up to last years election, and was going to pay for all of that by increasing taxes on working people  who see the state education system failing and remove their children from it, removing the cold winter fuel payments from pensioners, not uprating income tax allowances in line with inflation, taking financial support from disabled people etc etc. Without increasing taxes on "working people".

"Of course people could always vote for a populist Party who will say anything they think people want to hear in order to get into power..."
Yep, thats all of them then

"Please could you remind me who was it who said "They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"?"

Darrsi. But I still can't see the word "colour".

[Grahamm]

Nope....still can't see any colour mentioned there?

Yeah, right. That's not so much a dog whistle as a Fog Horn.

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"Of course people could always vote for a populist Party who will say anything they think people want to hear in order to get into power..."
Yep, thats all of them then

Well, it's certainly the Blue Tories, the Red Tories and the even more Far Right Tories...

[fazersharp]

"They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"
Yep I would agree with this I try to avoid driving in certain areas because the "community" living there drive like they do "back Home"

[darrsi]

"They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"
Yep I would agree with this I try to avoid driving in certain areas because the "community" living there drive like they do "back Home"

It is as simple as that, and a fact!

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Nope....still can't see any colour mentioned there?

Yeah, right. That's not so much a dog whistle as a Fog Horn.

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"Of course people could always vote for a populist Party who will say anything they think people want to hear in order to get into power..."
Yep, thats all of them then

Well, it's certainly the Blue Tories, the Red Tories and the even more Far Right Tories...

Erm, no, that would be your mind doing overtime, and trying to accuse me of words which quite clearly were never written down anywhere!

[Grahamm]

"They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"
Yep I would agree with this I try to avoid driving in certain areas because the "community" living there drive like they do "back Home"

It is as simple as that, and a fact!

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In politics a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition.

So come on, then, darrsi, please tell us exactly which "communities" and which "countries back home abroad" you were thinking of...

[darrsi]

"They are clearly bringing their lack of road manners and courtesies from back home abroad"
Yep I would agree with this I try to avoid driving in certain areas because the "community" living there drive like they do "back Home"

It is as simple as that, and a fact!

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In politics a dog whistle is the use of coded or suggestive language in political messaging to garner support from a particular group without provoking opposition.

So come on, then, darrsi, please tell us exactly which "communities" and which "countries back home abroad" you were thinking of...

Why should i, just for your sake? Stop trying to find something that isn't there. Read my post, like everyone else has, and leave it at that, rather than attempting to provoke an unnecessary response from me.

[Grahamm]

So come on, then, darrsi, please tell us exactly which "communities" and which "countries back home abroad" you were thinking of...

Why should i, just for your sake? Stop trying to find something that isn't there. Read my post, like everyone else has, and leave it at that, rather than attempting to provoke an unnecessary response from me.

Oh deary me, darrsi, I'm not finding something that isn't there, unless Fazersharp was also "finding something that isn't there" when he said 'I try to avoid driving in certain areas because the "community" living there drive like they do "back Home"'

Which "communities" are these? Where is "Back home" for them? You seem to be stating it clearly enough for him to understand and you obviously agreed with him because you said: "It is as simple as that, and a fact!"

So if it is such a "simple fact", why not simply answer the question...?

[darrsi]

So come on, then, darrsi, please tell us exactly which "communities" and which "countries back home abroad" you were thinking of...

Why should i, just for your sake? Stop trying to find something that isn't there. Read my post, like everyone else has, and leave it at that, rather than attempting to provoke an unnecessary response from me.

Oh deary me, darrsi, I'm not finding something that isn't there, unless Fazersharp was also "finding something that isn't there" when he said 'I try to avoid driving in certain areas because the "community" living there drive like they do "back Home"'

Which "communities" are these? Where is "Back home" for them? You seem to be stating it clearly enough for him to understand and you obviously agreed with him because you said: "It is as simple as that, and a fact!"

So if it is such a "simple fact", why not simply answer the question...?

You're boring me now ?

[agricola]

Seems to me that anyone has a right under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act to freely express an opinion without being pursued to explain that view by any petty bar room lawyer

[darrsi]

Seems to me that anyone has a right under Article 10 of the Human Rights Act to freely express an opinion without being pursued to explain that view by any petty bar room lawyer

Sounds good  to me.