(22-10-22, 11:03 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=25682.msg330498#msg330498 date=1666434465]
I think left side makes more sense (most people get on-off bikes and horses from that side), but right is not too bad either, as long as one standard is set globally.
The British rode horses on the left, because it allowed the rider to wield a sword with their right hand. We exported this to the British Empire and many of those countries still follow our practice.
The Americans used the right hand side because, when they used wagons for transport, the driver would sit on the left such that, if two wagons were passing each other, the drivers could easily look down to their left and check the wheels weren't going to clash. Also they would sit on the left rear horse, because that meant that they could use the driving whip on the horses on the left or the right of the team without having to reach across.
Supposedly Europe drives on the right because Napoleon was left handed, so he made everyone else follow him after he conquered much of Europe, but there's no actual documentary proof of this.
The last European country to change from left to right was Iceland in 1968. These days it would be prohibitively expensive to change over a modern, industrialised country from left to right hand traffic.
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Much cheaper to tape a pointy arrow to the windscreen (childhood memory) 
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate.... 
(22-10-22, 11:03 PM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=Slaninar link=topic=25682.msg330498#msg330498 date=1666434465]
I think left side makes more sense (most people get on-off bikes and horses from that side), but right is not too bad either, as long as one standard is set globally.
The British rode horses on the left, because it allowed the rider to wield a sword with their right hand. We exported this to the British Empire and many of those countries still follow our practice.
The Americans used the right hand side because, when they used wagons for transport, the driver would sit on the left such that, if two wagons were passing each other, the drivers could easily look down to their left and check the wheels weren't going to clash. Also they would sit on the left rear horse, because that meant that they could use the driving whip on the horses on the left or the right of the team without having to reach across.
Supposedly Europe drives on the right because Napoleon was left handed, so he made everyone else follow him after he conquered much of Europe, but there's no actual documentary proof of this.
The last European country to change from left to right was Iceland in 1968. These days it would be prohibitively expensive to change over a modern, industrialised country from left to right hand traffic.
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A more in-depth explanation....
https://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/driving-on-the-left/
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
06-12-22, 01:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-12-22, 01:28 PM by mtread.)
We can see where this is heading.....
Now ignoring the judge's direction to appear in person. The one-way 'special relationship'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-no...e-63871733
8 months prison, suspended for 12 months!
And strangely his family are happy with that "result"?
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
It's a bit pointless as she's unlikely to commit another crime in the UK. On the other hand it is a conviction and technically a prison term, which will stop her getting visas for some countries.
(08-12-22, 08:35 PM)mtread link Wrote: It's a bit pointless as she's unlikely to commit another crime in the UK. On the other hand it is a conviction and technically a prison term, which will stop her getting visas for some countries.
That was my thought too but travelling on a diplomatic passport gets around all of that.
On the plus side, she is unlikely to ever darken these shores again.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
(08-12-22, 07:46 PM)darrsi link Wrote: And strangely his family are happy with that "result"?
I think, at this point, they're happy just to get *any* result 
As much as it pains me to say it, this still was a tragic accident. Yes, things could've been done to prevent it in hindsight, but that simple theory applies to all accidents.
There are no winners here, a life has been lost and everyone involved would've just preferred that none of it had ever happened.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
09-12-22, 12:51 AM
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(08-12-22, 11:20 PM)darrsi link Wrote: As much as it pains me to say it, this still was a tragic accident. Yes, things could've been done to prevent it in hindsight
Cars on US Military Bases in the UK drive on the right. This has been a known issue for many years, yet still nothing has been done about it.
There have been other incidents, fortunately none of them have resulted in deaths, but it was only a matter of time...
Wrong-side drivers near air base used by American forces worry UK police
LONDON — A British police chief requested an urgent meeting with a U.S. military commander Saturday after learning of two more traffic incidents in the area where a teenage motorcyclist died in a collision with a car driven by an American diplomat's wife.
I dont believe that the "special relationship" is any longer meaningful, and that the US has treated the whole matter in a contemptuous manner
Quote:Cars on US Military Bases in the UK drive on the right. This has been a known issue for many years, yet still nothing has been done about it.
That's what I thought, but apparently not https://www.quora.com/When-actually-on-a...f-the-road
(10-12-22, 04:53 PM)mtread link Wrote: That's what I thought, but apparently not
Ok, then I've been misinformed.
There again, my Brother in Law gets sent all over the world by his work and once came back from a long trip in the USA.
We got in the car, he started to drive off and my sister yelped "We drive on the left here!" :eek
I think that's the point. US staff being 'allowed out' with insufficient preparation.
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