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Rear Brake refurb
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31-03-20, 10:39 AM
Thanks for the recommend.I think I have seen 3 designs. Those with the ratchet mechanism like yours then these ones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO-gRQDYR5s and then these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Br...SwKW5eeCYg
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
31-03-20, 10:44 AM
(29-03-20, 08:49 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: Often the only way is to split the caliper and twist them out, If you split it and you've not got the seal, you run the risk of it leaking should you reuse it, it will leak.If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram.
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31-03-20, 11:13 AM
(31-03-20, 10:44 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Gnasher link=topic=26027.msg311396#msg311396 date=1585511357]If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram. [/quote] This is what it's like but hope the one's you get look a bit better, [size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake...92407.html[/size][/size]
31-03-20, 11:20 AM
(31-03-20, 11:13 AM)bandit link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26027.msg311481#msg311481 date=1585647849]If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram. [/quote] [size=0.7em]This is what it's like but hope the one's you get look a bit better,[/size] [size=0.7em] [/size][size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake...92407.html[/size] [/quote] :lol Thanks for that at least I know what they look like but if they are new then I think I will take my chances with the old ones :lol Looking at delboys garage vid he said he has never needed to replace the split seals. Also not a single mention of red rubber grease on that vid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_Id6rgP3g
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
(31-03-20, 11:20 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=bandit link=topic=26027.msg311482#msg311482 date=1585649614]If I need to split the caliper Is the seal just a flat washer, I can not see it on the fowlers diagram. [/quote] I do find delboys vids very informative but I would use red rubber grease & instead of copper grease on pad backs I would use ceramic brake grease this is available from Euro car parts or Carparts4less [size=78%]https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/pagid-cer...-526770250[/size] [size=78%]If you haven't bought your piston seals yet try Powerhouse-UK on Ebay, kits are £19.99 without pistons or £59.99 with. [/size] [size=0.7em]This is what it's like but hope the one's you get look a bit better,[/size][size=78%] [/size][size=0.7em] [/size][size=78%][/size][size=78%]https://yambits.co.uk/fzs600-fazer-brake...92407.html[/size][/quote][size=78%] :lol Thanks for that at least I know what they look like but if they are new then I think I will take my chances with the old ones :lol Looking at delboys garage vid he said he has never needed to replace the split seals. Also not a single mention of red rubber grease on that vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC_Id6rgP3g [/size][/quote][size=78%] As well as the info above this may also help you to. http://www.redrubbergrease.com/tips-how-...d-kit.html[/size]
31-03-20, 12:00 PM
:eek Thanks for the extra info link. That's a lot of grease whacked in that bore.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
31-03-20, 12:07 PM
Last min STUPID QUESTION Just about to buy the PISTON ASSY, CALIPER 51L-W0057-00 on the fowlers site the kit is for 2 pistons and 4 seals isn't it. And not just for one side ? :o
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31-03-20, 12:09 PM
(31-03-20, 11:36 AM)bandit link Wrote: As well as the info above this may also help you to. Don't follow this advice or use copper grease on the seals, a smear is all that is needed. I would also recommend you don't reuse any old seals even the caliper body seal it will leak, maybe not straight away but it will, don't say I didn't tell you. :rolleyes
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31-03-20, 12:14 PM
(31-03-20, 12:07 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Last min STUPID QUESTION Just about to buy the PISTON ASSY, CALIPER 51L-W0057-00 on the fowlers site the kit is for 2 pistons and 4 seals isn't it. And not just for one side ? :o Yes, that part No gives you 2 pistons, dust and main seals. Well the box I've got in stock has.
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31-03-20, 12:21 PM
(31-03-20, 12:09 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=bandit link=topic=26027.msg311485#msg311485 date=1585650980] Don't follow this advice or use copper grease on the seals, a smear is all that is needed. I would also recommend you don't reuse any old seals even the caliper body seal it will leak, maybe not straight away but it will, don't say I didn't tell you. :rolleyes [/quote]I if I need to split then I will put in new seals - thank you. But how many do I need and from where do I get em. bandits post is very helpful but I dont lie the look of those new ones. A smear - thanks, I thought there was a bit much in those pictures. Absolutely no copper grease, I have a 500g tub of red rubber grease should last me 1,000 years.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
31-03-20, 12:33 PM
(31-03-20, 12:21 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I if I need to split then I will put in new seals - thank you. But how many do I need and from where do I get em. bandits post is very helpful but I dont lie the look of those new ones. You need one, as I said in I think it was may first post, Suzuki GS 500 caliper seal fits, order it at the same time from Fowlers
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31-03-20, 12:43 PM
(31-03-20, 12:33 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26027.msg311491#msg311491 date=1585653660] You need one, as I said in I think it was may first post, Suzuki GS 500 caliper seal fits, order it at the same time from Fowlers [/quote]Ah - so you did - my bad -thank you. I am having a massive wobble on the "kit" because when you click on it the next page only show 1 side https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/51L-W0057-00
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
31-03-20, 01:02 PM
(31-03-20, 12:43 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Ah - so you did - my bad -thank you. I am having a massive wobble on the "kit" because when you click on it the next page only show 1 side https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/51L-W0057-00 You're looking at the wrong bike look here [size=78%]https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/416...nd-caliper[/size] albeit it's the same caliper, I don't know what year or colour yours is so the actual ref may be wrong but all 98- 20 odd bikes are the same parts just colour. The drawings are misleading at times and Fowlers don't put all the info in i.e. column Qty used, the part is correct you should get the complete kit for the whole caliper i.e. 2 of everything. Give them a call if you're unsure they can look in the box or they'll look on the real part catalogue.
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31-03-20, 01:16 PM
This is another confirmation, these only sell genuine parts for the part No 51W00570000 you get 2 pistons, dust and main seals.
https://www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/y...lw00570000
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If splitting the caliper body it requires 2 seals not one.
Put Powerhouse-uk Brakes into your search engine,then bike brakes drop down box,then select brake caliper seal kits then Yamaha seal kits, as said £19.99 complete kit without pistons, the two seals next to the bleed nipples are for the caliper body. You only need to red rubber grease the face of the fluid seal after fitting into bore then the lips of the dust seal before inserting the piston. Copper grease will knacker your new seals, the ceramic grease has been designed as it contains no metal fragments to effect A.B.S systems on cars etc but is a bit more better looking than copper on your caliper & does not effect the braking surface of your pads if it gets on them.
31-03-20, 01:41 PM
(31-03-20, 01:33 PM)bandit link Wrote: If splitting the caliper body it requires 2 seals not one. Nope.....one
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31-03-20, 01:44 PM
On the fowlers site I can only see the kit with piston seals that include the split seal for the GS500 but I have found one here a webmoto https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/suzuki/gs_5...-_per_seal Is it the correct GS500 ?
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
31-03-20, 01:47 PM
(31-03-20, 01:16 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: This is another confirmation, these only sell genuine parts for the part No 51W00570000 you get 2 pistons, dust and main seals.I have spoken to a nice chap called Steve at fowlers and he too initially shared my confusion but then sort of confirmed it was 2 pistons. Normally he could look but is working at home so on his advice I have sent an email and hopefully someone can look in the box for me - as you said Gnasher
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31-03-20, 02:07 PM
Just heard back from fowlers and although they can not check right now they are confident it is 2 pistons.
I cannot find the GS500 caliper split washer on fowlers as a separate item I would like to find it on fowlers so I can add it to the order if I can.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
31-03-20, 02:16 PM
(31-03-20, 02:07 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Just heard back from fowlers and although they can not check right now they are confident it is 2 pistons. Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required. |
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