Side stand switch does nothing

[Steve3351]

ER yes...the bike is registered 2002 but its a 5DMC 070C... the 2001 model I think...I,m not going any further with the sidestand switch issue... too complicated for me.
Just fer the craic...this is wot i am looking at....the blue connector is the sidestand switch earth circuit... :evil

[unfazed]

This for UNFAZED...
the switch is definitely working. The two wires from the connector (black and blue/yellow) disappear into the loom.
I see under the seat someone has opened the loom, there is a lump of taped off wiring...and two red/blue wires going to a 10amp fuse labelled PARK.
I,m inclined to leave all as is...sidestand switch not operating is not too important,,,,

Therein lies your problem, looks like someone disconnected an alarm and taped up all the wires, but earthed the side stand switch wire.

Untape the wires and see how good the connections are inside. Post a picture, it is not the most difficult thing in the world to check the wiring if you can use a meter to check for continunity.
You only need to leave the sidestand down once  :eek :'(

[Steve3351]

OK thanks...will post pic tomoro :\

[Steve3351]

Hi...this is wots wrapped up under the seat.......!!! :eek

[Steve3351]

ACTUALLY...
when i untangled the nest of wires, it's just seven blank wires. six black and one black/red....so i have tidied up.
I don't thik this can have any bearing on sidestand switch issue.....?
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[unfazed]

Which ones were joined together?
Were the red/black and a black together as a pair of wires, if so it sounds like it had a meta alarm fitted and this pair of wire went to the Alarm active LED
The Black on the Side stand switch goes to a permanent  earth and the light blue yellow goes to the Clutch switch and the ignition switch. when you turn on the ignition this earth is extended to the Ignitor.Check if one of the wires in you connector has an earth when the ignition is switch on and goes off when the ignition is switched off.
Set you meter to check for DC volts. Connect the red lead of the meter to the Battery positive,  and check each wire in turn, when you get an earth you will get 12 volts. This is a permanent earth and mark it as  so.
With the meter red lead still connected to the battery ,Turn the ignition one. Check the rest of the wire for and earth, when you find one hold it one and turn off the ignition switch if the meter goes to zero you have found the side stand extended earth.

[Steve3351]

Thanks UNFAZED....but i don't think any of the wires were joined together...they were all blank..ie. went nowhere.
I will try the procedure u suggest all the same......
and report back

[unfazed]

Most likely when the alarm was being removed they connected the wire that normally goes to the side stand earth to a permanent earth to get it to run.
There must be two sets of two wires connected further in to the loom as you do not have all the wires for the alarm exposed.

[Steve3351]

I will dig a bit further into the loom...but in which direction....? 8)

[unfazed]

Follow the wires you have exposed at present

[Steve3351]

OK when i dig i find a red/black and a black one not connected to loom...so discard.
Am left with six wires.....five blanked off and one connected into loom....
checked for live and earth and here's the result....make any sense...?

[Steve3351]

PS...Previous pic with sidestand down...this one with sidestand up... :\

[unfazed]

I'm presuming L is live (12v) and E is earth???

[Steve3351]

Yes....and it looks like it makes no difference if sidestand is up or down.....?

[unfazed]

I presume the blue plug under the side cover was connected  The black wires with the yellow marks are the standard loom wires.
On the black plug socket in you pics there is a an NR number on the wire what is the number and are there any other NR numbers on the wires or a colour band?

[Steve3351]

Yes the blue connector is plugged in...the black connector is actually a 15a fuse...one of the wires going to it is marked 6NR...the other wire didn't go anywhere so i cut it out. All the black wires have similar yellow bands but no numbers or other markings...

[Steve3351]

So i check to see if i have continuity between the black side of the sidestand (blue) connector and any of the black wire i have exposed...and indeed i do...on Nos. 5 & 6....confusing....???

[unfazed]

Yes the blue connector is plugged in...the black connector is actually a 15a fuse...one of the wires going to it is marked 6NR...the other wire didn't go anywhere so i cut it out. All the black wires have similar yellow bands but no numbers or other markings...

That wire on a meta alarm is never connected on the Fazer as it is for Magneto ignition type bikes, which the Fazer most definitely is not.

So i check to see if i have continuity between the black side of the sidestand (blue) connector and any of the black wire i have exposed...and indeed i do...on Nos. 5 & 6....confusing....???

That would be correct as the black wire in the side stand blue connector goes directly to a permanent earth in the loom
You will need to delve further into the loom to find the extra connections

[Steve3351]

HHHhhmmmm.....
I cut back a bit more into the loom but I don't see any connections...I'm now into the original loom so I assume that it's all as originally made up.
Where i got the six black loose wire the loom had obviously been opened...my 1 - 5 black wires just come out and are cut off, the sixth is a spur from a wire running to the back of the bike...I'm rightly confused now... :fish

[unfazed]

Can you put up a picture of the wire spur?