Quote:It was fast before, and it was good before. But now, its definitely faster, and its definitely better. God I love this bike...
Well done Ogri. Brave man too. Mike did mine back in 2005 - slip on kit.
The things I noticed straight off (I can still remember) was a much stronger pick up at about 2.5K with the throttle wide open. Then that extra surge towards the top end. But best of all, no surging at small constant thottle openings. Mine will roll through towns at 30-35 mph in 6th, before I had to knock it down to 4th and it would still surge.
Well worth doing.
03-01-19, 12:24 AM (This post was last modified: 03-01-19, 12:37 AM by ogri48.)
cheers vna..yup, both me and dave noticed the huge improvement in that area mate. Just wish id done it two years ago One of the worst jobs was the daftest..ive connected all manner of shite to the battery over the last two years (heated grips, optimate lead, garmin hard wire, accessory fag lighter/usb unit)and messing about re connecting everything along with siting the fuse boxes and over long wiring was ridiculous..in prep for whipping them off again I cut everything back tonight, changed all the fuses for micro blades, then soldered /heat shrunk everything onto just the single leads..another job I should have done ages ago really.. :lol :lol
That made me laugh, Paul. The number of Fazers I worked on that had battery wiring like yours, as though they were powering every accessory in Halfords.
(03-01-19, 09:28 AM)Falcon 269 link Wrote: That made me laugh, Paul. The number of Fazers I worked on that had battery wiring like yours, as though they were powering every accessory in Halfords.
ah we all do it fellers
cant wait for when me illuminated magnifying thing turns up now im eager to get the carbs off and check it all out, even if its a wasted job and everything is tickety boo. I still think theres a slight hesitancy coming off the pilot circuit onto the main...do you think four and three quarter turns out with the mixture screws is a bit much? stock they were all between two and a half and three...thats a lot of difference. I havnt balanced the carbs yet but will borry daves carbtune (thanks again mate) and do it after the next re install
Did you enlarge one or two pilot bypass holes. If only one, then 4 1/4 - 4 1/2 is what I used to do. However, carb synch will likely have a greater effect than a 1/4 turn on the mixture screws.
I did two mate. I was sure youd done a post about enlarging just one so looked for it but couldn't find it, so just followed ivans instructions. Are the two pipes that rin from the carb to the crankcase just breathers mike or some sort of crankcase pressure thingy? they are a bit of a bugger to disconnect... I did one at the carb and one at the crankcase so I didn't confuse them on the re install
If you did two pilot bypass holes, your mixture screw setting is correct, Paul.
Are you referring to the pair of hoses that run to metal spigots above the front sprocket? If so, those are overflows and you can disconnect both at the spigot end. I just used a flat-blade 'driver to ease them off if they were stuck in place with age.
It doesn't matter which hose goes where but you should find that the hoses have taken a shape over time which will naturally bring them to their respective spigot. Mark one with a bit of tape if you really want to be sure.
fantastic cheers Mike! me led magnifying thingy turned up today so orf with the carbs again tomorrow to check it all out. The 3mm long reach t bar did too so theres lovely. I did use a three eight drive allen head socket on a long bar last time, but I mucho prefer the feel of lightweight gear, weirdo that I am. Im actually looking forward to tackling the job this time around...
lol aint it just.
Deffo whipping the carbs off tomorrow so it will be interesting to me to see whether ive drilled through enough, and how close I was to getting the float heights right with a ruler. One big mistake I wont make again is not getting the air filter box far enough back to give myself more room to work. only after the event did I realise if I unclipped the loom from the side of the box i'd get another half inch back which would have made a lot of difference..also I should have refitted the top bolt to hold it in place while I was working..the slotted hole maks sense now...all good experience in getting to know my bike...
06-01-19, 06:23 PM (This post was last modified: 06-01-19, 06:24 PM by ogri48.)
did it today. it took three hours. theres a lot to be said for having done a job before. and whereas I spent at least an hour cleaning the carbs/floatbowls etc the first time that was unnecessary this time. and the wiring tidy up saved me at least half an hour in itself
So. I hadnt drilled a few holes enough, the magnifying glass thingy I bought was useless, but the +3.5 cheapo reading glasses I got from poundland for a quid did the job, along with being far more confident this time. I checked the float heights with a Vernier, they were all good. re-fitting was much easier this time, mostly because I bolted the airbox as far back as it would go, then forced the back up with a rag to give me a decent bit of room, and manouvered the carbs in holdin them as high as they would go. that made all the difference in the world, along with a bit of gentle heat and some grease to make the inlet stubs and airbox connectors all go tickety boo.
whether I imagined it being a little iffy just off idle or not I don't know, but either way, its perfect now.
what an utterly, utterly brilliant bike these fazer thous are..
With a few of the pilot bypass holes smeared partially closed rather than enlarged, it's no wonder you felt it was a little 'off' low down. Have you synch'ed the carbs this time?
My quickest ever Slip-On kit install was 75 mins from putting the bike on the centre stand. Carbs off, modded, back on and synch'ed, and EXUP adjusted in that time. I was working outside in mid-Feb and it was 'kin cold so I had every incentive to get a wiggle on! :lol
I have full monty and there is a very slight hesitancy from tickover to light throttle opening, like a fluffing of the carbs which can be heard in the exhaust, catches me out at the lights if i’m Being lazy wristed.
I read that this symptom is indicative of correct pilot screw settings so i’m not too bothered, still goes like stink
still got to sync the carbs fellers. but it deffo all good. 75 minutes mike...thats bloody good going. mind you, 200+ bikes? I bet you could do it in the bloody dark!! :lol
One of the worst jobs was the daftest..ive connected all manner of shite to the battery over the last two years (heated grips, optimate lead, garmin hard wire, accessory fag lighter/usb unit)and messing about re connecting everything along with siting the fuse boxes and over long wiring was ridiculous..in prep for whipping them off again I cut everything back tonight, changed all the fuses for micro blades, then soldered /heat shrunk everything onto just the single leads..another job I should have done ages ago really.. :lol :lol
