Crash

[Graham53]

[quote author=Graham53 link=topic=21767.msg251516#msg251516 date=1486040975]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=21767.msg251510#msg251510 date=1486039238]
An insurance related question.
How long do you have to think about it and add up the costs to then decide that you are going through the insurance. What would they say if it was a week before you told them.

Also on the insurance route, it may just be the picture but how much tread is on that back tyre.

Apart from it not being legally compulsory for him to make an insurance claim, it might be basic maths especially if he's young rider / little experience, he could using used parts get that up and running for £200 , without my offer of a cover which is about £50 , s/h fairing £100 oil and filter £40 that's versus 5 years of having to declare a total loss on car insurance , bike insurance if it only puts his bike and car insurance up by £ 50 a year for both he's better off financially long term
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My main thoughts were how soon ---or how long can you get away with not telling your insurance and then decide that after looking at all the options it is better to go through the insurance after all.
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Sorry my bad  :rolleyes  I'm not sure how long but you could probably give it a week or so , after mine I had 4 days in hospital then the medication meant I spent I few days off planet earth and it was about a week or so before I called mine. Still suffer problems now ... foccing white van man

[Graham53]

I'd also put a new brake lever on it , in pics it looks ok , a bit of road rash on it at the ball but to be on the safe side it might be structurally weakened or have an unseen crack that you just know would fail at the wrong time  :eek

[Grant1Shepherd]

Hi guys


Just wanted to answer everything in one comment rather than quote you all :lol  firstly thank you all so much for the support, like I said I've only fractured my right wrist but personally couldn't care less my focus is purely on the bike    secondary regarding insurance I'm 21 with 3 years NCB, I'm lucky to have this bike in the first place, if I claim I'll be lucky to get insurance ever again without having to saw off my arms and legs  :rolleyes  thirdly thank you so much for the offer of the exhaust, sadly mine was an aftermarket one (pictures below) and I already have an idea of what next to put on it  :lol  however thank you all so far for all your help and comments, I feel much better knowing the bike SHOULD be fixable 

[tommyardin]

5 Seconds running, I'm almost positive the engine will be fine. It takes 10 -15 seconds seconds for all the oil to exit an engine when you take the sump plug out, and, the oil that had already been picked up by the scavenger oil pump will still have been going around the engine.

[Fazafou]

The engine will be fine.


A guy recently drained the oil out of an old merc on YouTube and it ran for about 17 minutes before failing.  It actually takes a little while for the surfaces to run dry, so a few seconds will not impact anything.


As said, replace the side casing and all good.  Looks like the silencer will slide straight back on.  You could fix that up for less than £100 I reckon.


As mentioned above though, did the ped's not hang around to make sure you were alright.  Technically they have just left the scene of an accident, especially as you were avoiding them.  If you had a helmet cam with footage you could take them to small claims court to cover the cost of your bike repairs.  For the price to repair you may not be bothered about that though, but a helmet/bike cam is worth the investment for things like this.


Some might disagree, but I'd not have swerved, simply emergency braked and controlled the bike to stay upright.  I don't mean deliberately hit them, simply make a controlled stop with a blast on the horn.  It's easy for someone to nip out of the way of a bike compared to a car so probably wouldn't amount to anything.

[fazersharp]

Some might disagree, but I'd not have swerved, simply emergency braked and controlled the bike to stay upright.  I don't mean deliberately hit them, simply make a controlled stop with a blast on the horn.

Thats a tricky one without actually being there as there are times when an emergency stop is just not enough, many a creature has ran out infront of me at the last second and a swerve was the only thing that had saved me from having to clean up a right mess. And then I think after wards "how the Foc did I manage to swerve around that" 

[Grant1Shepherd]

The engine will be fine.


A guy recently drained the oil out of an old merc on YouTube and it ran for about 17 minutes before failing.  It actually takes a little while for the surfaces to run dry, so a few seconds will not impact anything.


As said, replace the side casing and all good.  Looks like the silencer will slide straight back on.  You could fix that up for less than £100 I reckon.


As mentioned above though, did the ped's not hang around to make sure you were alright.  Technically they have just left the scene of an accident, especially as you were avoiding them.  If you had a helmet cam with footage you could take them to small claims court to cover the cost of your bike repairs.  For the price to repair you may not be bothered about that though, but a helmet/bike cam is worth the investment for things like this.


Some might disagree, but I'd not have swerved, simply emergency braked and controlled the bike to stay upright.  I don't mean deliberately hit them, simply make a controlled stop with a blast on the horn.  It's easy for someone to nip out of the way of a bike compared to a car so probably wouldn't amount to anything.

Cheers thanks for the advice mate. I know exactly what video you're on about as well from CarThrottle  :lol


The exhaust could be put back on but I'm thinking to replace it now anyway with another brand


Sadly to answer the question i forgot earlier no the peds did not hang about, I don't remember much from the accident apart from what I've been told by another bypasser who said I came off, immediately crawled to the bike and turned it off (kill switch) bypasser had no idea what I was on about when I asked if it was kill switch :lol  and then apparently just screamed in agony holding my right arm, apparently I did shout at the peds who ran across the road to help me but she said that 4 people she recalls ran off down another street (I'm not angry about this, just disappointment in human compassion).


Thank you for the tip about just braking next time, I will take that on bored and remember it in case it happens again, I only swerved as I remember being told to avoid sudden incidents like that when I did my A2 Testing in the summer last year.

[Grant1Shepherd]

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Some might disagree, but I'd not have swerved, simply emergency braked and controlled the bike to stay upright.  I don't mean deliberately hit them, simply make a controlled stop with a blast on the horn.

Thats a tricky one without actually being there as there are times when an emergency stop is just not enough, many a creature has ran out infront of me at the last second and a swerve was the only thing that had saved me from having to clean up a right mess. And then I think after wards "how the Foc did I manage to swerve around that"
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Sadly I only have my word for it and my memory is a little all over the place from my head smacking off the road but from what I recall they did just run out of nowhere, it was so dark on the path and my light was green I didn't see them until they were less than 10 feet in front of me, and at 30mph I just did not have time to brake

[celticdog]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=21767.msg251550#msg251550 date=1486051771]
[quote author=Fazafou link=topic=21767.msg251548#msg251548 date=1486050706]

Some might disagree, but I'd not have swerved, simply emergency braked and controlled the bike to stay upright.  I don't mean deliberately hit them, simply make a controlled stop with a blast on the horn.

Thats a tricky one without actually being there as there are times when an emergency stop is just not enough, many a creature has ran out infront of me at the last second and a swerve was the only thing that had saved me from having to clean up a right mess. And then I think after wards "how the Foc did I manage to swerve around that"
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Sadly I only have my word for it and my memory is a little all over the place from my head smacking off the road but from what I recall they did just run out of nowhere, it was so dark on the path and my light was green I didn't see them until they were less than 10 feet in front of me, and at 30mph I just did not have time to brake
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Any crash you can walk away from is a 'good crash' grant 
It's good that you focus on the bike, by the time you get it fixed up you'll be ready to get back in the saddle.

[Chris]

I've got a standard 600 exhaust in good condition in the shed if you need it. I'll not be putting it back on as I do love the sound of my blueflame can.

PM if you're interested.

Chris

[Grant1Shepherd]

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[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=21767.msg251550#msg251550 date=1486051771]
[quote author=Fazafou link=topic=21767.msg251548#msg251548 date=1486050706]

Some might disagree, but I'd not have swerved, simply emergency braked and controlled the bike to stay upright.  I don't mean deliberately hit them, simply make a controlled stop with a blast on the horn.

Thats a tricky one without actually being there as there are times when an emergency stop is just not enough, many a creature has ran out infront of me at the last second and a swerve was the only thing that had saved me from having to clean up a right mess. And then I think after wards "how the Foc did I manage to swerve around that"
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Sadly I only have my word for it and my memory is a little all over the place from my head smacking off the road but from what I recall they did just run out of nowhere, it was so dark on the path and my light was green I didn't see them until they were less than 10 feet in front of me, and at 30mph I just did not have time to brake
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Any crash you can walk away from is a 'good crash' grant 
It's good that you focus on the bike, by the time you get it fixed up you'll be ready to get back in the saddle.
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I know buddy and I should be more grateful about how lucky I was, just can't help thinking about the bike :'(
I will get it fixed up and be back riding in no time I promise that .

[Grant1Shepherd]

I've got a standard 600 exhaust in good condition in the shed if you need it. I'll not be putting it back on as I do love the sound of my blueflame can.

PM if you're interested.

Chris

Thanks for the offer Chris, honestly I really appreciate that, I'm gonna replace it with an SP one I've wanted for some time (no better time than now I suppose) but nice of you to offer mate .

[mtread]

I've got a standard 600 exhaust in good condition in the shed if you need it

So have I, so's Graham53. I think there are more standard exhausts sitting in sheds and garages, than there are on bikes 

[Chris]

No worries, Might well get an aftermarket one now as you say. 

Hahaha, mtread, you are probably right!

Chris

[ogri48]

Seconded, the engine will be fine mate, and sorry for your spill. Get it back on the road and come spring I'll Fill and paint it for free if you want, finished in 2k lacquer as long as I've got the basecolour you want in stock. Did it for another feller on here a few years back in a similar predicament, his bike was a helluva state, been attacked with a hammer.

[fazersharp]

Seconded, the engine will be fine mate, and sorry for your spill. Get it back on the road and come spring I'll Fill and paint it for free if you want, finished in 2k lacquer as long as I've got the basecolour you want in stock. Did it for another feller on here a few years back in a similar predicament, his bike was a helluva state, been attacked with a hammer.

Fantastic offer there, from all the Focers ---- what a community we have here on FOC-U   

[HarryHornby]

I've got a standard 600 exhaust in good condition in the shed if you need it

So have I, so's Graham53. I think there are more standard exhausts sitting in sheds and garages, than there are on bikes 

Don't listen to any of them...... I have a stock exhaust sitting in my garage..... LOADS better than all those other stock exhausts that have been offered.......have mine! 

[tommyardin]

Don't listen to Harry his is off a Red Boxeye, don't fit his as it will not help with your top speed, but, with saying that yours is a slow red one anyway.

[Grant1Shepherd]

Don't listen to Harry his is off a Red Boxeye, don't fit his as it will not help with your top speed, but, with saying that yours is a slow red one anyway.

Aha you lot are all mental    love FOC-U so much

[tommyardin]

[quote author=tommyardin link=topic=21767.msg251916#msg251916 date=1486398061]
Don't listen to Harry his is off a Red Boxeye, don't fit his as it will not help with your top speed, but, with saying that yours is a slow red one anyway.

Aha you lot are all mental    love FOC-U so much
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If he had a fast silver one he would have been long gone before those pedestrians even got out of their house.