windows 10

[fazersharp]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
:hijack

[darrsi]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
:hijack

It's old, XP must be sooooooo sloooooow in comparison to Windows 7 or above.
I know my old laptop which has it on is. I crank it up occasionally just to blow away the cobwebs, and to remind me again how slow it really was.
I only keep it as I use it as another back-up place for a mountain of music.

[PieEater]

And you go to a windows site to get the true information  :rollin

No I posted the link as evidence that I'm not talking out of my arse :rolleyes My job of work means I have to be more knowledgeable than most when it comes to these things so I get my information from a number of sources as well experience.

I don't doubt you've had some borked upgrades because the machines you've worked on have been borked in the first place but that does not negate the fact that Windows 10 comes with IE11 pre-installed and assuming a successful installation of Windows 10 there should be no reason other than user error to have to re-install Internet Explorer.

[PieEater]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.

That's a very risky strategy if you value the security of your data.

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=19115.msg221563#msg221563 date=1452854372]
All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
:hijack

It's old, XP must be sooooooo sloooooow in comparison to Windows 7 or above.
I know my old laptop which has it on is. I crank it up occasionally just to blow away the cobwebs, and to remind me again how slow it really was.
I only keep it as I use it as another back-up place for a mountain of music.
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Yes I have to admit that it is now looking slow as I also have another pc with win 7 but the speed is more to do with the newer pc with better cpu and and extra 6gb ram than the difference between xp and 7. I will be replacing my xp pc with a newer one with win 7 and I will NOT be upgrading to 10

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=19115.msg221563#msg221563 date=1452854372]
All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.

That's a very risky strategy if you value the security of your data.
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I have a paid for security software installed, whats the issue with an old xp then

[BBROWN1664]

There is security and security.

XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so other vendors like Avast, MacAfee etc don't fully support XP with their products either. As browsers go out of support, MacAfee etc stop looking for and fixing things they find as it just adds cost with no benefit for them.

[Jamieg285]

I'm suprised that no-one has mentioned Linux yet

:pokefun

[fazersharp]

There is security and security.

XP is no longer supported by Microsoft so other vendors like Avast, MacAfee etc don't fully support XP with their products either. As browsers go out of support, MacAfee etc stop looking for and fixing things they find as it just adds cost with no benefit for them.

I am still getting some sort of support for xp as I have just received an up date -Windows malicious software removal tool January 2016(KB890830) whats that then?
And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp

[PieEater]

And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp

From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home...file_en_us

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=19115.msg221578#msg221578 date=1452861208]
And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp

From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home...file_en_us
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This from the second line on the link you gave

Your Norton products will continue to support Windows XP for the foreseeable future.

I will be changing my pc for a win 7 one very shortly but hate the feeling that I am being forced into it

[darrsi]

[quote author=PieEater link=topic=19115.msg221581#msg221581 date=1452861916]
[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=19115.msg221578#msg221578 date=1452861208]
And as far as I am aware my Norton is fully supporting xp

From Norton support - "If you have a Windows XP computer, we strongly recommend that you upgrade to a more modern and supported operating system as soon as possible."

https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home...file_en_us
[/quote]

This from the second line on the link you gave

Your Norton products will continue to support Windows XP for the foreseeable future.

I will be changing my pc for a win 7 one very shortly but hate the feeling that I am being forced into it
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You'll be putting unleaded fuel in your bike next.  :lol

[maddog04]

thanks to unfazed and following his instructions, I've now got IE 11 back and its allowing me access to most if not all sites in my favourites tab. It will not ley me access my works system and when I try to log into work it gives a security message relating to the certificate of the site. Work have tried everything including remote access and even had me trying Chrome instead of IE but the same message appeared........work said its my end causing the issue

[darrsi]

thanks to unfazed and following his instructions, I've now got IE 11 back and its allowing me access to most if not all sites in my favourites tab. It will not ley me access my works system and when I try to log into work it gives a security message relating to the certificate of the site. Work have tried everything including remote access and even had me trying Chrome instead of IE but the same message appeared........work said its my end causing the issue

Oh, that old china, a bit like when my email address wouldn't receive any emails ONLY from work, but it was my fault, resulting in me needing a new address?  :look

[unfazed]

[quote author=unfazed link=topic=19115.msg221559#msg221559 date=1452849467]
And you go to a windows site to get the true information  :rollin

No I posted the link as evidence that I'm not talking out of my arse :rolleyes My job of work means I have to be more knowledgeable than most when it comes to these things so I get my information from a number of sources as well experience.

I don't doubt you've had some borked upgrades because the machines you've worked on have been borked in the first place but that does not negate the fact that Windows 10 comes with IE11 pre-installed and assuming a successful installation of Windows 10 there should be no reason other than user error to have to re-install Internet Explorer.
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and I worked as an IT administrator and IT trainer for 25 years :eek :thumbup

[unfazed]

thanks to unfazed and following his instructions, I've now got IE 11 back and its allowing me access to most if not all sites in my favourites tab. It will not ley me access my works system and when I try to log into work it gives a security message relating to the certificate of the site. Work have tried everything including remote access and even had me trying Chrome instead of IE but the same message appeared........work said its my end causing the issue

Use the snipping tool and post the message

[unfazed]

All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
:hijack

Security on XP is seriously lacking, in the last 3 months I have received 2 machines which had 2 different working versions of anti virus software and both were hit by what is called Ransomeware, Cryptolocker or Cryptowall virus/trojan.
It encrypts files and wants you to pay a ransom in Bitcoin to receive the encryption key. Bitcoin cannot be traced apparently
One lost years of work documents/pdfs, excel worksheets, t presentations, drawings and all his photographs (many were of his wife who died a year before). The first fellow had backups, but when he could not open the files he retrieved them from his back drive which then became infected. The second fellow lost everything on his, because he had no backup.
The encryption use is the latest virtually uncrackable  by using a long RSA key of 1024 bits or more

Continue to use XP for internet and email access at your own risk  :eek

[maddog04]

seems it was an antivirus issue that needed an update, got a prompt off my free AVG and once I'd hit the repair button, everything went ok......including the works connection

glad to be back on IE 11

thanks to everyone who gave me some advice

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=19115.msg221563#msg221563 date=1452854372]
All this is exactly why I have stayed with xp.
I use firefox with that but am getting pissed off with it because it seems now that there is an update every 2 days and every time there is one it go's crap and something stops working.It used to work great, now I get 100% cpu spikes on some sites, I might start a separate post on that one after the weekend as i dont want to
:hijack

Security on XP is seriously lacking, in the last 3 months I have received 2 machines which had 2 different working versions of anti virus software and both were hit by what is called Ransomeware, Cryptolocker or Cryptowall virus/trojan.
It encrypts files and wants you to pay a ransom in Bitcoin to receive the encryption key. Bitcoin cannot be traced apparently
One lost years of work documents/pdfs, excel worksheets, t presentations, drawings and all his photographs (many were of his wife who died a year before). The first fellow had backups, but when he could not open the files he retrieved them from his back drive which then became infected. The second fellow lost everything on his, because he had no backup.
The encryption use is the latest virtually uncrackable  by using a long RSA key of 1024 bits or more

Continue to use XP for internet and email access at your own risk  :eek
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I dont keep anything on the computer, everything is backed and if that happened to me then I would just bin it.
Its all crap - computers are crap apple is crap