Clutchless gearchange ok?

[noggythenog]

Who gives a foc if engine breaking increases wear...we'll have crashed the bike before it becomes significant :lol




Original question is about clutch-less changes......apparently not a problem really (if done properly) so how slick are you????.........and changing down without the clutch....i dunno.....what real benefit is there....it's not like it's a chore to use the clutch is it?.




It's one of those things that's just cool to do without really making all that difference on the roads in the real world so if it works for you then crack on.....i couldn't get used to it as i couldn't guarantee id do it nicely every time and hence crunch crunch and was taking extra concentration where it could be better directed towards focusing on the road.




A crack habit is far worse :b

[bigralphie]

Clutchless changes are smoother helps stops lid bounce 2 up 

[fazersharp]

Never done clutchless changing -------- never thought about it on the bike---- in the car yes as changing gears bores me to sleep, on trhe bike I like the eb and "yank" when changing, dont want smooth.
Engine brake all the time along with a throttle blip to get the exact amount I need

[Hiswitsend]

Clutchless changes are great for when the clutch cable snaps and you want to get home rather than wait on the breakdown truck. True story

[Millietant]

I suppose I'm a bit anal then !  -  I use clutch less changes because, when done properly, they're quicker, slicker, smoother and easier on the engine and clutch. BUT, to do them properly (especially down-changes) takes care, skill and precision in matching RPM's, as well as good hand to foot coordination, that most riders don't have the patience or ability to do.


I take it as a challenge to get this right. The smoother and slicker I can be, to my mind, the better rider I become.

[Dave48]

I suppose I'm a bit anal then !  -  I use clutch less changes because, when done properly, they're quicker, slicker, smoother and easier on the engine and clutch. BUT, to do them properly (especially down-changes) takes care, skill and precision in matching RPM's, as well as good hand to foot coordination, that most riders don't have the patience or ability to do.


I take it as a challenge to get this right. The smoother and slicker I can be, to my mind, the better rider I become.

Its certainly a useful skill to learn & helps develop hand/foot/brain co-ordination, the bike becoming an extension of the riders brain/will.
The other way to achieve smooth controlled down changes is to "blip" throttle when downchanging to match engine speed to road speed for the lower gear selected. A smooth rider is generally a  faster one.
Engine braking is simply the drive train working against the compression of the engine which is useful on long descents to avoid brake fade(overheating)
There is no hard & fast rule for all road situations-its down to practice & experience.

[mark]

After reading this I can see this bike costing loads  :'( I use front brake rear brake and foccing engine brake by the sounds of that I recon I must be stopping more than going  :rollin And clutchless nah I like swinging on the lever we ain't on a race track people

[Gav]

I had clutch cable snap on a Yamaha Diversion during my Direct Access test +10 yr ago. Shifting down approaching traffic lights hmmmm not a hope lol.

Luckily examiner gave me a lift to collect another bike to complete the test without clutchless gear changes woohoo.