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What grease?
#1
Centre stand is no longer smooth and gets stuck half-way up and needs to be lifted by hand. So I want to take it off to clean and grease it.

Having had no spanner experience before biking I need to ask what grease to use. There seems to be many mentioned on an internet search - lithium, white, or mostly just "grease". I already have copper grease - is this good for the job or should I get something else?

And finally is this a job I can do myself - have read darsi's thread http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2879.0.html however I would suggest that there is a gap between his years of experience and expertise and my own Smile
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#2
I hope yours comes off easier than mine. My centrestand has been getting harder to use lately as it's developed a twist... it was fight to get the r/h bolt undone, had to take the angle grinder to the rounded-off locknut in the end.
Grease: main requirement there is something really thick that's going to stay put. I use Castrol Heavy.
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#3
I'm not altogether positive you need to take the stand off to do what you want.  Clean all the gunk off, use a degreaser, move it through it's entire range of movement.

A different bike, but you might learn some useful info on this page http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cf...Id=2214557

But in answer to your question, I am sure copper grease will be fine, just don't put much on.

http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/26806#.UdAdm_msiSo
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=6868.0
http://www.bikerforum.co.uk/topic/8355-c...__p__85378
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#4
Try lubricating with engine oil if you want to use grease lithium/general purpose or molydisulphide.
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#5
Some lithium grease should do the job, you can usually pick up some cheap stuff from the pound shop.

Andy
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#6
I'd probably go with lithium grease as well - seems a bit more resistant to water / muck than copper. I use copper on bolt threads to prevent corrosion more than anything else
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#7
I could be very wrong but the reason it may be sticking might be because the stand is twisted, they have a bad habit of doing that?


As suggested i would degrease the joints first with brake cleaner, or whatever you have, and see if it helps at all. Then a heavy lithium grease is what i'd also use.


Don't bother with copper grease, that's used more to stop metals bonding together, rather than a moving parts lubricant.

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#8
(30-06-13, 03:43 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Don't bother with copper grease, that's used more to stop metals bonding together, rather than a moving parts lubricant.


Yep, only use copper grease on nuts and bolts so they don't get stuck, normal grease on moving parts.


Tbh I wouldn't be too concerned about what type (lithiumetc) just greasing its going to be better than no grease at all!
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#9
Looking on 1000s corner, twisted stand seems to be a prelude to the thing breaking altogether, dumping the bike on the floor. If you're taking it off, might be a good idea to check that it's not cracked. Don't know if this has been a problem on the 6's?
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(30-06-13, 05:22 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Looking on 1000s corner, twisted stand seems to be a prelude to the thing breaking altogether, dumping the bike on the floor. If you're taking it off, might be a good idea to check that it's not cracked. Don't know if this has been a problem on the 6's?

Yeah, they start with a bit of rust first, then twist.
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#11
A big thanks for all the replies :thumbup I think I'll leave it in place for now but try to clean it with chain cleaner and lube it with engine oil, see what that does.
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#12
I've got some white spray grease that does the job. Came from the WD 40 range that they brought out a while ago but does the job, even if it splatters a bit.
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#13
http://www.audiomate.co.uk/proddetail.ph...tAod22gADA


That's the bugger!


Got some of their de-greasant as well that does the job too...
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#14
Noticed mine was sticking yesterday (dont use the main stand much) I just gave it a few squirts of 3in1 oil and its fine again now!!
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#15
When my centre stand twisted it was due to severe corrosion of curved tubular bridge section which has been cut out & a new piece welded in, restoring shape & strength If you can remove the stand bolts/nuts the shouldered part of the bolt dries out and gets rusty. Clean off & use lithium based grease on reassembly. Otherwise spray grease with "straw" attachment into the parts between stand & frame bearers. Double check springs ok-they do wear out intime.
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#16
That tub would last me 20 years!
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(30-06-13, 12:42 PM)Farjo link Wrote: Centre stand is no longer smooth and gets stuck half-way up and needs to be lifted by hand. So I want to take it off to clean and grease it.

Having had no spanner experience before biking I need to ask what grease to use. There seems to be many mentioned on an internet search - lithium, white, or mostly just "grease". I already have copper grease - is this good for the job or should I get something else?

And finally is this a job I can do myself - have read darsi's thread http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2879.0.html however I would suggest that there is a gap between his years of experience and expertise and my own Smile
Spray WD40 liberally on the spring and around the 2 bolts attaching it to the frame. Move it up and down to see if it frees out. If so it just needs greasing. I usually use good quality chain grease and it works fine. Worst case scenario is that it is starting to crack and needs to be replaced. Not a difficult job just awkward to get at.
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#18
I use some spray lubricant. I believe it is mixture of teflon (PTFE, whatever they call it) and lithium soap base lubricant. Easy to just spray beneath the bike.

If you want to be thorough: 1st some degreaser, then wash it off, then some WD40. Let it drip. Then apply some grease and spray lubricant.


I got cheap some red "coplex lithium grease". It is very good. This explains advantages:

http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read...resistance

The complex grease doesn't get more gummy in cold than the regular one, at least it appears that way.


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