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What grease? - Farjo - 30-06-13
Centre stand is no longer smooth and gets stuck half-way up and needs to be lifted by hand. So I want to take it off to clean and grease it.
Having had no spanner experience before biking I need to ask what grease to use. There seems to be many mentioned on an internet search - lithium, white, or mostly just "grease". I already have copper grease - is this good for the job or should I get something else?
And finally is this a job I can do myself - have read darsi's thread http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2879.0.html however I would suggest that there is a gap between his years of experience and expertise and my own
Re: What grease? - Fazerider - 30-06-13
I hope yours comes off easier than mine. My centrestand has been getting harder to use lately as it's developed a twist... it was fight to get the r/h bolt undone, had to take the angle grinder to the rounded-off locknut in the end.
Grease: main requirement there is something really thick that's going to stay put. I use Castrol Heavy.
Re: What grease? - simonm - 30-06-13
I'm not altogether positive you need to take the stand off to do what you want. Clean all the gunk off, use a degreaser, move it through it's entire range of movement.
A different bike, but you might learn some useful info on this page http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cfm?fa=contentGeneric.qgntgwplktwyjcps&pageId=2214557
But in answer to your question, I am sure copper grease will be fine, just don't put much on.
http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/26806#.UdAdm_msiSo
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=6868.0
http://www.bikerforum.co.uk/topic/8355-centre-stand-spring/page__view__findpost__p__85378
Re: What grease? - bandit - 30-06-13
Try lubricating with engine oil if you want to use grease lithium/general purpose or molydisulphide.
Re: What grease? - andybesy - 30-06-13
Some lithium grease should do the job, you can usually pick up some cheap stuff from the pound shop.
Andy
Re: What grease? - Dead Eye - 30-06-13
I'd probably go with lithium grease as well - seems a bit more resistant to water / muck than copper. I use copper on bolt threads to prevent corrosion more than anything else
Re: What grease? - darrsi - 30-06-13
I could be very wrong but the reason it may be sticking might be because the stand is twisted, they have a bad habit of doing that?
As suggested i would degrease the joints first with brake cleaner, or whatever you have, and see if it helps at all. Then a heavy lithium grease is what i'd also use.
Don't bother with copper grease, that's used more to stop metals bonding together, rather than a moving parts lubricant.
Re: What grease? - Punkstig - 30-06-13
(30-06-13, 03:43 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Don't bother with copper grease, that's used more to stop metals bonding together, rather than a moving parts lubricant.
Yep, only use copper grease on nuts and bolts so they don't get stuck, normal grease on moving parts.
Tbh I wouldn't be too concerned about what type (lithiumetc) just greasing its going to be better than no grease at all!
Re: What grease? - nick crisp - 30-06-13
Looking on 1000s corner, twisted stand seems to be a prelude to the thing breaking altogether, dumping the bike on the floor. If you're taking it off, might be a good idea to check that it's not cracked. Don't know if this has been a problem on the 6's?
Re: What grease? - darrsi - 30-06-13
(30-06-13, 05:22 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Looking on 1000s corner, twisted stand seems to be a prelude to the thing breaking altogether, dumping the bike on the floor. If you're taking it off, might be a good idea to check that it's not cracked. Don't know if this has been a problem on the 6's?
Yeah, they start with a bit of rust first, then twist.
Re: What grease? - Farjo - 30-06-13
A big thanks for all the replies :thumbup I think I'll leave it in place for now but try to clean it with chain cleaner and lube it with engine oil, see what that does.
Re: What grease? - JZS 600 - 30-06-13
I've got some white spray grease that does the job. Came from the WD 40 range that they brought out a while ago but does the job, even if it splatters a bit.
Re: What grease? - JZS 600 - 30-06-13
http://www.audiomate.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=WD1020&gclid=CMnnle2-jLgCFWzItAod22gADA
That's the bugger!
Got some of their de-greasant as well that does the job too...
Re: What grease? - Doddsie - 30-06-13
Noticed mine was sticking yesterday (dont use the main stand much) I just gave it a few squirts of 3in1 oil and its fine again now!!
Re: What grease? - Dave48 - 30-06-13
When my centre stand twisted it was due to severe corrosion of curved tubular bridge section which has been cut out & a new piece welded in, restoring shape & strength If you can remove the stand bolts/nuts the shouldered part of the bolt dries out and gets rusty. Clean off & use lithium based grease on reassembly. Otherwise spray grease with "straw" attachment into the parts between stand & frame bearers. Double check springs ok-they do wear out intime.
Re: What grease? - darrsi - 01-07-13
That tub would last me 20 years!
Re: What grease? - unfazed - 01-07-13
(30-06-13, 12:42 PM)Farjo link Wrote: Centre stand is no longer smooth and gets stuck half-way up and needs to be lifted by hand. So I want to take it off to clean and grease it.Spray WD40 liberally on the spring and around the 2 bolts attaching it to the frame. Move it up and down to see if it frees out. If so it just needs greasing. I usually use good quality chain grease and it works fine. Worst case scenario is that it is starting to crack and needs to be replaced. Not a difficult job just awkward to get at.
Having had no spanner experience before biking I need to ask what grease to use. There seems to be many mentioned on an internet search - lithium, white, or mostly just "grease". I already have copper grease - is this good for the job or should I get something else?
And finally is this a job I can do myself - have read darsi's thread http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2879.0.html however I would suggest that there is a gap between his years of experience and expertise and my own
Re: What grease? - Slaninar - 01-07-13
I use some spray lubricant. I believe it is mixture of teflon (PTFE, whatever they call it) and lithium soap base lubricant. Easy to just spray beneath the bike.
If you want to be thorough: 1st some degreaser, then wash it off, then some WD40. Let it drip. Then apply some grease and spray lubricant.
I got cheap some red "coplex lithium grease". It is very good. This explains advantages:
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28381/grease-lithium-production-resistance
The complex grease doesn't get more gummy in cold than the regular one, at least it appears that way.
When in doubt:
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