Centre stand is no longer smooth and gets stuck half-way up and needs to be lifted by hand. So I want to take it off to clean and grease it.
Having had no spanner experience before biking I need to ask what grease to use. There seems to be many mentioned on an internet search - lithium, white, or mostly just "grease". I already have copper grease - is this good for the job or should I get something else?
And finally is this a job I can do myself - have read darsi's thread http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2879.0.html however I would suggest that there is a gap between his years of experience and expertise and my own
I hope yours comes off easier than mine. My centrestand has been getting harder to use lately as it's developed a twist... it was fight to get the r/h bolt undone, had to take the angle grinder to the rounded-off locknut in the end.
Grease: main requirement there is something really thick that's going to stay put. I use Castrol Heavy.
30-06-13, 12:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 30-06-13, 01:05 PM by simonm.)
I'm not altogether positive you need to take the stand off to do what you want. Clean all the gunk off, use a degreaser, move it through it's entire range of movement.
A different bike, but you might learn some useful info on this page http://www.motorcycleinfo.co.uk/index.cf...Id=2214557
But in answer to your question, I am sure copper grease will be fine, just don't put much on.
http://fazerowners.yuku.com/topic/26806#.UdAdm_msiSo
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=6868.0
http://www.bikerforum.co.uk/topic/8355-c...__p__85378
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Try lubricating with engine oil if you want to use grease lithium/general purpose or molydisulphide.
Some lithium grease should do the job, you can usually pick up some cheap stuff from the pound shop.
Andy
I'd probably go with lithium grease as well - seems a bit more resistant to water / muck than copper. I use copper on bolt threads to prevent corrosion more than anything else
I could be very wrong but the reason it may be sticking might be because the stand is twisted, they have a bad habit of doing that?
As suggested i would degrease the joints first with brake cleaner, or whatever you have, and see if it helps at all. Then a heavy lithium grease is what i'd also use.
Don't bother with copper grease, that's used more to stop metals bonding together, rather than a moving parts lubricant.
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(30-06-13, 03:43 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Don't bother with copper grease, that's used more to stop metals bonding together, rather than a moving parts lubricant.
Yep, only use copper grease on nuts and bolts so they don't get stuck, normal grease on moving parts.
Tbh I wouldn't be too concerned about what type (lithiumetc) just greasing its going to be better than no grease at all!
Some say...
Looking on 1000s corner, twisted stand seems to be a prelude to the thing breaking altogether, dumping the bike on the floor. If you're taking it off, might be a good idea to check that it's not cracked. Don't know if this has been a problem on the 6's?
(30-06-13, 05:22 PM)nick crisp link Wrote: Looking on 1000s corner, twisted stand seems to be a prelude to the thing breaking altogether, dumping the bike on the floor. If you're taking it off, might be a good idea to check that it's not cracked. Don't know if this has been a problem on the 6's?
Yeah, they start with a bit of rust first, then twist.
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A big thanks for all the replies :thumbup I think I'll leave it in place for now but try to clean it with chain cleaner and lube it with engine oil, see what that does.
I've got some white spray grease that does the job. Came from the WD 40 range that they brought out a while ago but does the job, even if it splatters a bit.
http://www.audiomate.co.uk/proddetail.ph...tAod22gADA
That's the bugger!
Got some of their de-greasant as well that does the job too...
Noticed mine was sticking yesterday (dont use the main stand much) I just gave it a few squirts of 3in1 oil and its fine again now!!
When my centre stand twisted it was due to severe corrosion of curved tubular bridge section which has been cut out & a new piece welded in, restoring shape & strength If you can remove the stand bolts/nuts the shouldered part of the bolt dries out and gets rusty. Clean off & use lithium based grease on reassembly. Otherwise spray grease with "straw" attachment into the parts between stand & frame bearers. Double check springs ok-they do wear out intime.
That tub would last me 20 years!
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(30-06-13, 12:42 PM)Farjo link Wrote: Centre stand is no longer smooth and gets stuck half-way up and needs to be lifted by hand. So I want to take it off to clean and grease it.
Having had no spanner experience before biking I need to ask what grease to use. There seems to be many mentioned on an internet search - lithium, white, or mostly just "grease". I already have copper grease - is this good for the job or should I get something else?
And finally is this a job I can do myself - have read darsi's thread http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,2879.0.html however I would suggest that there is a gap between his years of experience and expertise and my own  Spray WD40 liberally on the spring and around the 2 bolts attaching it to the frame. Move it up and down to see if it frees out. If so it just needs greasing. I usually use good quality chain grease and it works fine. Worst case scenario is that it is starting to crack and needs to be replaced. Not a difficult job just awkward to get at.
I use some spray lubricant. I believe it is mixture of teflon (PTFE, whatever they call it) and lithium soap base lubricant. Easy to just spray beneath the bike.
If you want to be thorough: 1st some degreaser, then wash it off, then some WD40. Let it drip. Then apply some grease and spray lubricant.
I got cheap some red "coplex lithium grease". It is very good. This explains advantages:
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read...resistance
The complex grease doesn't get more gummy in cold than the regular one, at least it appears that way.
When in doubt:
Elastica - Vaseline
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