(02-05-13, 10:02 PM)Chris link Wrote: A very good point you make Simon and Tiberius about obvious to one person and common sense etc. I just find that most people on here are pretty switched on so forget that some people find computers and common sense difficult 
Anyway, on topic. An interesting point you make about someone having an account and not posting anything, not even an intro thread. If you look here: http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=who then there are often people listed as "guest" and "regestiring for an account" but often they never post anything. Wonder if there is anything we can do to encourage the lurkers to join in..??
Chris Poke em with a stick (PM). :\
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Ye, there is that... on the main forum page down by the "who's online" then it has a bit that says newest member. Could PM them, if they've not got any posts up, to say welcome and encourage them to pop a pin in the members map and get an intro thread up... Might be a bit pushy though... :\
Chris
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It wouldn't be fun if it was easy, I just wish it wasn't this much fun.
(02-05-13, 10:19 PM)Chris link Wrote: Ye, there is that... on the main forum page down by the "who's online" then it has a bit that says newest member. Could PM them, if they've not got any posts up, to say welcome and encourage them to pop a pin in the members map and get an intro thread up... Might be a bit pushy though... :\
Chris
Leave em to it an put up a sticky thread 
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Or that :lol
It could maybe be part of the registration confirmation email (I can't remember if it is or not...), "Stick up an introduction thread and don't forget to check out the members map" Something like that, might encourage a few to post that might just lurk otherwise.
Chris
It wouldn't be fun if it was easy, I just wish it wasn't this much fun.
(02-05-13, 10:24 PM)Chris link Wrote: Or that :lol
It could maybe be part of the registration confirmation email (I can't remember if it is or not...), "Stick up an introduction thread and don't forget to check out the members map" Something like that, might encourage a few to post that might just lurk otherwise.
Chris Fair weather foc'cers eh ;-)
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Just had a look at the members map again, I feel pretty lonely up here... :'(
Not as lonely as Darrsi must be though! He's either riding his underwater fazer to america or he's a damn good swimmer... :lol
Chris
It wouldn't be fun if it was easy, I just wish it wasn't this much fun.
If people haven't posted then I'm sure they have their reasons. I'm not sure it its really cricket to just message them out of the blue for a run until they decide they want to join in on their own. If they want to jump in first, then its open season
Smell ones mother. Yaas!
(02-05-13, 11:16 PM)Tiberius Onklevaart link Wrote: If people haven't posted then I'm sure they have their reasons. I'm not sure it its really cricket to just message them out of the blue for a run until they decide they want to join in on their own. If they want to jump in first, then its open season
:agree
Better to stand and look a fool than speak and prove it !
If it aint broke, I'll fix it till it is !!
I haven't and won't be messaging them so there. :b
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03-05-13, 08:43 AM
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Why join a forum if not to participate? If they're not interested they won't reply. Considering your extrovert posts you're very conservative :rolleyes
at was directed at tibbs btw.
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Like I said, if they want to join in first, open season. Plenty of people register on forums and lurk. Be it through quick access or necessity or even through being allowed opportunity to access features that they may want to take advantage of sometime down the line.
I have a phone, does that mean I use it? If I choose not to then thats up to me. What I wouldn't like is someone calling me up for PPI and market research or even to coax me into going out for a blast on my bike if I'd never engaged with them in any way before.
Similarly, I may stick my name on the member list and plan to get involved, but maybe I'm dealing with a sick mother, or long working hours or simply can't be fucked dealing with people. Then suddenly I get a bundle of emails telling me theres ride outs, join the map, introduce yourself blah blah blah.
The site is plainly laid out to allow all this stuff to be accessible eithout the need to pester folk before they have a chance to get their shit together.
Once they start off, they better hope I've not had a dram but until they make the first move, I'm happy to leave them in peace and engage with the hundreds, if not more, people who do engage and do go for runs and are already involved. This is usually quite easy to do through rideouts and meets. Albeit some of may have to travel but thats the nature of the beast.
But hey, I'm not seeing the overall purpose and thats cushty, I'm left to do my own thing here and that suits me and hopefully others.
Batter in
Smell ones mother. Yaas!
I don't care enough to argue 8) . It's plainly not going to happen so wtf do I care ?
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
(03-05-13, 10:58 AM)simonm link Wrote: I don't care enough to argue 8) . It's plainly not going to happen so wtf do I care ?
This isn't an argument. It's a discussion with different points of view. Sorry Si but just because someone doesn't agree with your point of view doesn't mean that your point isn't worth raising and discussing or that they're trying to make you look like a tit, see naughty corner for details :lol .
You raised a very valid suggestion with your first post, as adults (even Tiberius has made valid and sensible points, he must be having one of his more lucid off the drams moments :b ) we're discussing the best way forward. I'm sure we would all like the forum to have more members and grow but we can't force people to join in if they don't want to.
Maybe I'm different but the first thing I do when I join any forum/go to a new place is look around and would thereore quickly find things like the members map/rideout topics etc. The decision may be to do nothing or make a few changes but whatever happens noone is having a go at you or arguing with you.
Chris
It wouldn't be fun if it was easy, I just wish it wasn't this much fun.
(03-05-13, 11:58 AM)Chris link Wrote: [quote author=simonm link=topic=7580.msg73314#msg73314 date=1367575095]
I don't care enough to argue 8) . It's plainly not going to happen so wtf do I care ?
Even Tiberius has made valid and sensible points, he must be having one of his more lucid off days
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I very often do, Chris, I just much prefer being an antagonist (and young Grahamm, my usual sporting foe, has been quiet recently.  )
And on that.
Yet again Si, someone doesn't agree and you take the huff and poof oot.
The Chris fella is right, there is no argument here and instead we are utilising the use of a discussion, which is the body of much of your point here, no?
I'm mindful enough to know that I'm not to the taste of the many with the nonsense I post but its generally in jest no matter how nasty it would appear to be. I don't use the :pokefun things so maybe it gets misunderstood. Its all good. I'm a nice guy really. Very civil, in life and work. Honest Guv.
So that extends to you, friend, in that this is nothing other than words on a screen and that anything said on it should be no more than face value. There's been no insults (and oh jeez do I feel dirty) no badness, no anger and no ill feeling, merely a difference of opinion. No biggie. Lets get on with it
Thats reasonable innit? (christ, this is like a mud bath with thora hird. POST MORTEM. Bleuergh!!!!!)
Smell ones mother. Yaas!
03-05-13, 12:41 PM
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(03-05-13, 11:58 AM)Chris link Wrote: [quote author=simonm link=topic=7580.msg73314#msg73314 date=1367575095]
I don't care enough to argue 8) . It's plainly not going to happen so wtf do I care ?
This isn't an argument. It's a discussion with different points of view. Sorry Si but just because someone doesn't agree with your point of view doesn't mean that your point isn't worth raising and discussing or that they're trying to make you look like a tit, see naughty corner for details :lol .
You raised a very valid suggestion with your first post, as adults (even Tiberius has made valid and sensible points, he must be having one of his more lucid off the drams moments :b ) we're discussing the best way forward. I'm sure we would all like the forum to have more members and grow but we can't force people to join in if they don't want to.
Maybe I'm different but the first thing I do when I join any forum/go to a new place is look around and would thereore quickly find things like the members map/rideout topics etc. The decision may be to do nothing or make a few changes but whatever happens noone is having a go at you or arguing with you.
Chris
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I know but it seems like there is failure to consensus on every post :\
If you go in to a pub and sit down in the corner would you be offended if someone came over and asked if you'd like to chat ?
If you went to a bike show and there was someone standing next to you watching the motorcycle display do you think they'd be offended if you said hi ?
If you join a forum, if you're a lurker or not then you should expect some form of communication, even if it's one way. If you're not interested in that you'd use a disposable email address to register and/.or not reply to the messages.
My post was a request to try and raise interest, the PM'ing thing seemed to taint the original meaning.
My main point is this: Most forums make good use of sticky threads, there are virtually none here. How to post pictures using the new process went in to general and disappeared. PM'ing lurkers isn't a crime. I PM'ed most of the people within a 15 mile radius of me to find out if anyone wanted a rideout. I got responses, no one seemed annoyed or irritated and likewise if someone hadn't replied I wouldn't have been offended.
I want to go out and ride with people and naff all I do or say changes that. I got a bike to make new friends and no one wants to ride out (maybe I'm too much of a loud mouth).
I don't know, I was just trying to make a difference and/or improve the forum experience for people.
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Like I said Si, you raise a perfectly valid point and In no way do I want to discourage you from getting in touch with people.
I'm sure noone will be offended by you getting in touch with them but don't be surprised if not everyone replies, yes you have already said that you won't so that's fine.
Chris
Love you too Tibs :lol
It wouldn't be fun if it was easy, I just wish it wasn't this much fun.
Tibbs, Chris,
I'm okay, I always was and always will be. I have just have a 'I give up' approach
I can tell pretty much instantly when you're not going to change someone's mind, so you may as well bug out before the stone catches miss (like it has here).
I preempt that.
Opinions are like A**holes, Everyone has one. Some people seem to have more than one though which is a bit odd.
Jesus, i only said someone's pin happened to be hiding behind mine, i don't mind if they don't want to participate.
If people get so upperty about a mere observation then no wonder others don't want to join.
Red Heads - Slowly taking over the world!!!
What also needs to be taken into consideration is that some may be better communicators on a forum arena than a face to face meeting. I for one love to ride out but prefer to be alone as I find that others tend to be hesitant in city traffic whilst I is slow on twisters or visa versa.
At the end of the day its a matter of choice for the members and if they choose with hold their location then lets respect. People will use the forum for their own needs and personally a sticky of basic maintenance maybe of use such as "Which Engine Oil Is Best To Use" :lol
Everyone has the right to voice their opinion or with hold it.
Daz
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You Could Say She's Got It All.
(03-05-13, 12:41 PM)simonm link Wrote: [quote author=Chris link=topic=7580.msg73333#msg73333 date=1367578709]
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If you go in to a pub and sit down in the corner would you be offended if someone came over and asked if you'd like to chat ?
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Not initially, but there's a ten second window where they need to make it count. If they don't impress there's a distinct possibility that I'll highlight that my drink is more interesting and they should take their leave. This window increses to 15 seconds for a lady, 20 for a pretty lady, and about the time it takes summon a taxi for a drunk lady
Smell ones mother. Yaas!
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