(16-04-13, 08:07 PM)Yamazer-92 link Wrote: Just read this post and found it interesting, had a few hours spare so went out and got my air filter out to see what it is and the condition of it. Holy crap. The filter wasn't too bad, a bit dirty but nothing major for being on there almost a year but the airbox had loads of emulsified oil in. Not really sure why it was there, I cleaned it out anyway. There was also loads of oil dripping from the spongy bit of the bottom of the filter too so I dried all that out and applied a thin smearing of new oil. It's not a K & N one and I will put one of them in if I decide to keep the Fazer (looking likely unless I utterly love the test ride on a supermoto) but it's made a huge difference to how the bike feels low down and has stopped the revs dropping before I pull away.
I had that 2 air filters back, took the filter out and was met with a pool of mustard!
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Sounds like one of either two things - could be the fuel so your carbs need to be balanced, easy if you have the gear and know how but a cheap mechanic fix if not but before that whip off your tank and have a look at the filter it sounds like a breathing problem if the bike is oldish then it will be pushing oil up into the filter and need regular cleaning and or change it for an after market you should notice a nice change in the pickup around 6500 with a k&n or something similar - but buy the cleaning kit and clean it every 2000 or you will have issues again.
(16-04-13, 08:19 PM)domtrails link Wrote: Sounds like one of either two things - could be the fuel so your carbs need to be balanced, easy if you have the gear and know how but a cheap mechanic fix if not but before that whip off your tank and have a look at the filter it sounds like a breathing problem if the bike is oldish then it will be pushing oil up into the filter and need regular cleaning and or change it for an after market you should notice a nice change in the pickup around 6500 with a k&n or something similar - but buy the cleaning kit and clean it every 2000 or you will have issues again.
Enjoy your ride bro.
You don't clean a K&N every 2000 miles?
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Yeah Darrsi it looked just like your pic and was a fair bit in there too, all gone now though and straight away the bike is better lower in the revs as I said. I have a list of things I need to do to this bike if I keep it, 2 of which are getting a K & N and getting the carbs balanced which I can do at college or get a mate to do anyway so wont be a huge issue. Its a bit erratic on tick over at the moment but pulls great everywhere else.
16-04-13, 09:00 PM (This post was last modified: 16-04-13, 09:01 PM by darrsi.)
(16-04-13, 08:51 PM)Yamazer-92 link Wrote: Yeah Darrsi it looked just like your pic and was a fair bit in there too, all gone now though and straight away the bike is better lower in the revs as I said. I have a list of things I need to do to this bike if I keep it, 2 of which are getting a K & N and getting the carbs balanced which I can do at college or get a mate to do anyway so wont be a huge issue. Its a bit erratic on tick over at the moment but pulls great everywhere else.
Before i had my carbs balanced a few months back my bike ran like shit between 2000 and 2500rpm, i had to keep the revs up as it was very jittery, but would pull away absolutely fine from 3000rpm as if there wasn't an issue, which is why i've suggested the carb balance to @elbrownos.
Once it's all balanced the bike is smooth in any gear and at low revs, and is much easier to handle.
It's one of those things that drifts out over time, so it's not really obvious until it becomes silly.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
K&N filters are the same as any other filter and hence need cleaning as any other filter needs cleaning thats what they do filter the air and need to be cleaned, i like ,y bike to breath and drink with the least resistance so I clean my filters every 2000km change my oil every 3000 and balance my carbs at the same time but its just a weekend toy and hence boot too many km done.
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(16-04-13, 09:55 PM)domtrails link Wrote: K&N filters are the same as any other filter and hence need cleaning as any other filter needs cleaning thats what they do filter the air and need to be cleaned, i like ,y bike to breath and drink with the least resistance so I clean my filters every 2000km change my oil every 3000 and balance my carbs at the same time but its just a weekend toy and hence boot too many km done.
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Not according to their own advert, first clean at up to 50,000 miles for starters!
I've noticed by your bike photo' that your filter is not the "drop in the air box" type, so i don't know if that's to do with it?
no I have taken the air box out of mine its true but I had a K&n in the air box before, if the conditions are perfect and the bike brand new then OK go for it but I would take it out after say 2-3000 km and have a look you will have oil from the breather pipe and general detritus from the air. Filters do not self clean and if you want your bike to breath easily cleaning them is essential.
Do they really say every 50,000km that is a rather outlandish claim and bad marketing for the cleaning materials.. :rolleyes :rolleyes
(17-04-13, 06:50 AM)domtrails link Wrote: no I have taken the air box out of mine its true but I had a K&n in the air box before, if the conditions are perfect and the bike brand new then OK go for it but I would take it out after say 2-3000 km and have a look you will have oil from the breather pipe and general detritus from the air. Filters do not self clean and if you want your bike to breath easily cleaning them is essential.
Do they really say every 50,000km that is a rather outlandish claim and bad marketing for the cleaning materials.. :rolleyes :rolleyes
Click on the link i provided, and it starts with 50,000 miles.
Which is a pretty damn good start for a Fazer i reckon, and they say not to clean them before that too.
Bearing in mind conditions over here are cooler, and relatively dust free in comparison to countries that actually have heat more than 1 month a year!
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
Also, having the filter in an airbox is likely to reduce the amount of crap that gets sucked through it compared to a cone filter - at least in these circumstances. Tempted to changing the induction system on my car, but that's another story
They say that for car filters in ideal conditions - even though I find it strange. I have always been a fan of nice clean filters and had a K&N in my airbox from 25-45000km and cleaned it every 4000km as I found it dirty its what I thought I should do.
I must admit I am blessed with great roads and great biking weather, we ride every weekend all year and the roads are spectacular here.
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