headlights.... leds,halogens,hids,projectors etc ect

[Paulfzs]

why do i need to add the wires to battery and not direct to the h4 plug :S


like use one of these
http://i00.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/18362...r-4514.jpg


plug the 3 pin into h4 then the hi/lo plug into the hi/lo plug in the projector then the ballast plug to the ballast.


then itll look like this...

[sinto607276]

All the places I've Emailed or called, have all  suggested the +/- wiring to power as it reduces the chance of flickering, you are right in your thoughts that it'll work without but it will flicker as the power isn't sufficient enough through the normal wiring as it's a dual element bulb and unlike the H1 bulb in that respect.

Try typing "h4 hid wiring diagram" into Google

All the H4 HID kits I've looked at have all had the extra wiring with an inline fuse, why would you not want to use it?

[Paulfzs]

Got no problem doing that just trying to work out what i actually need, as you can see theres loads of types of wiring harness and my brain has refused to function all week.

[sinto607276]

Got no problem doing that just trying to work out what i actually need, as you can see theres loads of types of wiring harness and my brain has refused to function all week.

In my opinion, which isn't very much :lol
But taking into account of your poor lights (HID'S) you've had I'd try and get one supplier to supply you a full kit i.e. 1 x H1 and 1 x H4 with all the corresponding ballasts and wiring.

I know you've got loads of ballasts and bulbs lying around but your problem may be none are actually compatible with each other. So I'm saying you might need to just put them all to one side and get a set from a supplier.  They're are plenty that will supply you a set like this. The added bonus of doing this, is that, if they fail/don't work the company should help you get it sorted. When you mix and match stuff, no one will stand by the other stuff you got from somewhere else.

[Paulfzs]

im sure its down to my battery being on its way out, plugged into a 22ah and not an ounce of flicker, so going to replace the battery at some point.


the battery does seem a bit weak, previous non hid when the fan comes on the lights all dim.

[Paulfzs]

Fitted my projectors today, had to dremel out the hole on the h1 side, got it all fitted and theyre bright!


Currently using a normal h1 on the main beam side, waiting on the harness with controller for main beam.


I do however still have the flickering problem... but only on the left not right so thats telling me theres an issue with the left wiring harness for the original lighting.

[sinto607276]

Fitted my projectors today, had to dremel out the hole on the h1 side, got it all fitted and theyre bright!


Currently using a normal h1 on the main beam side, waiting on the harness with controller for main beam.


I do however still have the flickering problem... but only on the left not right so thats telling me theres an issue with the left wiring harness for the original lighting.

:useless

[Paulfzs]

Soo....


i bought 2.5 inch projectors in h1 form £23 on ebay in the uk for the pair

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/331462742506?_...EBIDX%3AIT

They fit the right side with no modification, easy to fit... the left side needed modification, just dremeled out the hole so it fits.


simply a case of splitting the light in the oven, pushing the back of the projector through the bulb hole and then doing it up.


Fitted nicely however the 2 inch would have been better as i couldn't fit the plastic surround without cutting chunks out of the original reflector which i decided against incase i ever want to change it back.


Pics:


fitted into reflectors





fitted onto the bike: (it definately needs a respray or a good wash)



both projectors and spotlights (spotlights now unwired they arent needed however may wire to a seperate switch)







daytime on:





They where just thrown in and not adjusted when i took this pic but theyre bright!


can see the right hand side one just above the dip beam but its mostly pointing to the left and high.


Currently no main beam option untill my controller arrives so i have dip beam left and dip beam both for now, Not tried it at night yet though.

[sinto607276]

Looking good Paul, a lot better than you had too

You could possibly wire your spots to come on with the side lights?

[Paulfzs]

Looking good Paul, a lot better than you had too

You could possibly wire your spots to come on with the side lights?

Spotlights are overkill to be honest, just 1 is brighter than main + dip beam on the standard fazer headlights, i used them as an emergency get home once and pointed at the floor and got flashed lol.


I should turn them round... the guy behind me will turn his full beams off then.


Im not sure what ill do with them to be honest, the hid seems more than enough and fills enough of the road to not need to light anymore up.

[sinto607276]

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Looking good Paul, a lot better than you had too

You could possibly wire your spots to come on with the side lights?

Spotlights are overkill to be honest, just 1 is brighter than main + dip beam on the standard fazer headlights, i used them as an emergency get home once and pointed at the floor and got flashed lol.


I should turn them round... the guy behind me will turn his full beams off then.


Im not sure what ill do with them to be honest, the hid seems more than enough and fills enough of the road to not need to light anymore up.
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Yeah you just want light to see :lol

You mentioned H1's? Are you sticking two of them in or is one an H4?
Did you just put in standard bulbs or the HID's?
You also said about having to cut away the original reflector to fit the shroud, is this because of the length of the projector?
I don't think the shroud makes any difference on the light? (As I think it's just cosmetic)

[Paulfzs]

Theyre both h1s and i have h1 hid's fitted to both, the projectors have an electromagnet inside which flips a little piece of aluminium up allowing the light to bounce around the whole reflector so h1 should be fine on both.


The plastic cover is only cosmetic and it wouldnt fit as the 2.5 inch projector takes up most of the reflector space so the surround rubs against the top and bottom of the fazers standard reflector.


The projectors are long but they fit pretty well with room, id say a good inch and half if not more away from the glass on the headlight.


Rough total to get here...


4x 55w ballasts
1x 35w ballast
4x 55w bulbs
1x 35w bulb
3x wiring harness's
2x hid projectors
1x wiring harness with hi/lo controller


I love doing things the hard way!

[sinto607276]

Theyre both h1s and i have h1 hid's fitted to both, the projectors have an electromagnet inside which flips a little piece of aluminium up allowing the light to bounce around the whole reflector so h1 should be fine on both.
H1's aren't dual element bulbs so I can't get it in my head that you'll have full beam, I'll need to wait and see it once you get the wiring harness your talking about

The plastic cover is only cosmetic and it wouldnt fit as the 2.5 inch projector takes up most of the reflector space so the surround rubs against the top and bottom of the fazers standard reflector.
ahh, so it's the width and not the length that's the problem

The projectors are long but they fit pretty well with room, id say a good inch and half if not more away from the glass on the headlight.


Rough total to get here...


4x 55w ballasts
1x 35w ballast
4x 55w bulbs
1x 35w bulb
3x wiring harness's
2x hid projectors
1x wiring harness with hi/lo controller


I love doing things the hard way!

you sure do :lol

[hmmmnz]

I'll count my self lucky that I got it first time,  :lol

[Paulfzs]

the projectors have a flap that opens and closes uncovering the bulb allowing 100% light, basically, dip beam is 3/4 of a h1 hid, and main beam is a full h1 hid.


Theyre plenty bright enough as they are.


Just had a go at adjusting them, should have tried before putting the fairing on but the left one is still pretty heigh so going to have to unscrew it a bit and pull the rear up a bit to drop the light.


I clearly rushed it a bit so it may end up coming off again later today re melted then re-adjusted properly.


other than that, its good.

[sinto607276]

I've got two spare H7 HID bulbs lying about, so I'm guessing that they'd work in the same way as the H1's you've put in Paul, where are you getting the wiring harness to operate the flap as the link you put in earlier doesn't do them.

[Paulfzs]

here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/310814227119?_...EBIDX%3AIT

[7omly]

With regards to voltage drop from the battery to the lamps the distance on a bike shouldn't affect it but the guage of wiring will. Years ago I had a VW Golf mk2 which had abysmal wiring which gave 10.8v dip and 11.3 on main with the engine running. Two hours later fitted with a custom wiring harness containing a separate relay for dip and main the readings were a revelation as was the amount of light available. Engine running 13.1v dip, 13.4 main. Obviously you're unlikely to get those voltages on a bike but you'll get an improvement.
I simply bought two sets of HID. The cheap Chinese ones everyone saod not to get. They're for a car so I have a spare full set of both H4 and H1 bulbs and ballast. The slim ballasts just fit inside the fairing on top of the headlamps. I had to use self-amalgamating tape to the headlamp plug fittings. They are only 35w bulbs but the light output must be 10 times better. My only gripe is that main beam isn't much better than dip but at least I can now see well enough to ride at legal road speeds. I maytry a different manufacture bulb to see if I can better the maain beam but if I can't I'm still happy at the improvement which cost less than £30 and I've still got a spare set to allay any fears of poor chinese manufacture.

[kgjersda]

I remember a post but I cannot find it regarding the voltage for the headlight. This person did a mod and upped his voltage to the headlamp and got better light.
I measured mine today and it was maximum 11.5volts on the bright beam while active, while the bike was charging a good 14-14.3 volts.

The reasoning is that the gauge of the wires/contacts in the button cluster is too thin to properly power the lamp.
Has anyone in here done this mod? And how would I go about performing this mod?

[kgjersda]

Just measured my car as well, 13-14volts no problems at the light...