Flat Battery

[mtread]

You mean ex boyfriends of TV reality stars?  :rolleyes

[fazersharp]

:thumbup

[VNA]

Very popular with certain communities 

Not sure what that means but it's certainly rife. 

Anyway Fazersharp a 20 year old battery in a bike you've had coming on 18 years.Get a new bike ya tight bastard! :lol

[Fazerider]

Early Fazers still on their first batteries aren’t that rare. 
Mine spins the motor up OK and IIRC Red98 is on the original too.

[Flooky]

On Halfords site:
Yeah cos of twats throwing acid in peoples faces in London, ( moped gangs etc )

What Is Changing?


From July 1st 2018, the law around motorcycle batteries is changing. After this date, anyone wishing to buy a motorcycle battery with a separate acid pack will require an Explosives, Precursors and Poisons (EPP) Licence, costing £39.50. Purchasing acid packs without a licence will be illegal and could incur a fine. To keep things simple for you, we will no longer sell batteries with separate acid packs after July 1st. Instead, we will only stock pre-filled motorcycle batteries from Yuasa - the leading motorcycle battery brand. You won't need a licence to buy these pre-filled batteries and they come fully charged, ready to fit.

[Flooky]

I didn't use the quote button properly. sorry

[mtread]

Yeah cos of twats throwing acid in peoples faces in London, ( moped gangs etc )

It's been rife, and not just the 'moped gangs'. Revenge by jealous ex partners, fights in clubs etc. Hidden in water bottles, and not obvious like a knife.
Change in the law the only way to go. A minor inconvenience. Hopefully pre filled batteries don't stay on the shelves for long.

[VNA]

Were people really using gel pack batteries for attacks.A rather expensive and fiddly way to get acid.
But people who carry out acid attacks - well words fail me to be honest.

[YamFazFan]

Were people really using gel pack batteries for attacks.A rather expensive and fiddly way to get acid.
But people who carry out acid attacks - well words fail me to be honest.

I assume that they were using the 6 compartment acid pack which was supplied with normal lead acid battery's for home filling.


Do gel pack batteries come already filled and sealed?. If so I guess they're unaffected by the legislation. Never bought one so wouldn't know.


Yes they're complete assholes who carry out these attacks.

[VNA]

Do gel pack batteries come already filled and sealed?. If so I guess they're unaffected by the legislation. Never bought one so wouldn't know.

The battery came empty.  You took the gel pack out of the box and just pushed it into the top of the battery, then leave it for 15 minutes or so.  Check all the gel has dropped into the battery.  Then fit the seal.  Stick it in the bike and press play.
The nice thing is you knew you were getting a band new battery, not somethingt that's been sitting around on a potentially dodgy charging rack for months on end.

[mtread]

I think that's the problem. Easy to pierce the 6 cells one by one and empty into a bottle.

[red98]

Early Fazers still on their first batteries aren’t that rare. 
Mine spins the motor up OK and IIRC Red98 is on the original too.

nearly FAZERIDER  had to replace it last year , bikes a 98 so lasted 19 years  :thumbup  Bought an identical replacement GS YUSSA , bet you it dosn't last as long......... :rolleyes

[Fazerider]

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Early Fazers still on their first batteries aren’t that rare. 
Mine spins the motor up OK and IIRC Red98 is on the original too.

nearly FAZERIDER  had to replace it last year , bikes a 98 so lasted 19 years  :thumbup  Bought an identical replacement GS YUSSA , bet you it dosn't last as long......... :rolleyes
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Ah, OK. Perhaps they are getting rare now.  :lol
You don’t get this sort of lifetime without it being a top-notch battery, I’m sure you won’t regret buying the same again.
Mine’s had an easy life up to now… they definitely thrive on regular use, I’ve never needed to put it on charge. Now my commuting days are over (I got made redundant in summer) it is probably going to need an occasional maintenance charge.

[Skippernick]

So I jumped the battery from the car, charged it for half an hour, then got it on the trickle charger for a few hours. Left it over night to see if it would hold charge and it did, put it on the bike used it for a couple of days with no problems. Have now left it for 24 hours and still holding charge. Hopefully keep me going for a bit whilst I sort the chain and sprockets.


Cheers all.

[VNA]

I think that's the problem. Easy to pierce the 6 cells one by one and empty into a bottle.

But is anybody going to buy a new battery for that?  Might take the acid out of a knackered battery.
And a bottle of caustic soda is just a couple of quid.
Do our gel pack batteries really need to be banned?

[YamFazFan]

I think that's the problem. Easy to pierce the 6 cells one by one and empty into a bottle.

But is anybody going to buy a new battery for that?  Might take the acid out of a knackered battery.
And a bottle of caustic soda is just a couple of quid.
Do our gel pack batteries really need to be banned?

I was wondering about that. I bet they don't buy brand new motorcycle battery kits very often to get hold of the acid. It's one of those situations where the legislation catches-all I imagine.

[VNA]

I blame the EU.
Gotta blame somebody or something :lol

[fazersharp]

This is the charger-optimiser I use.