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[darrsi]

If someone really wants to nick your bike, they will, especially the pro's.
Alarms cause nothing but electrical issues.
Old school meaty chains are the best deterrent.

[BBROWN1664]

If the bike is fitted with an alarm using the standard plug in section under the seat, its easy to remove. Just unplug it and plug in the bypass plug that was there from the factory.
Did this on my Tiger and the replacement plug was £3 from Triumph. Knowing Yamaha, it will be about £30 though if you haven't got it still.

[Slaninar]

If someone really wants to nick your bike, they will, especially the pro's.
Alarms cause nothing but electrical issues.
Old school meaty chains are the best deterrent.

It's good to prevent kids from climbing the bike and burning/harming themselves.
It's also a deterrent. All things being equal, thieves go for the bike without an alarm.

But I agree that a chain is a lot more effective - garage being the best thing.
However, as an addition to a good chain, alarm is not too bad IMO - if you don't have a garage especially.

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=22708.msg262561#msg262561 date=1497309092]
If someone really wants to nick your bike, they will, especially the pro's.
Alarms cause nothing but electrical issues.
Old school meaty chains are the best deterrent.

It's good to prevent kids from climbing the bike and burning/harming themselves.
It's also a deterrent. All things being equal, thieves go for the bike without an alarm.

But I agree that a chain is a lot more effective - garage being the best thing.
However, as an addition to a good chain, alarm is not too bad IMO - if you don't have a garage especially.
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An alarm doesn't prevent kids from doing anything?


Twice now i've seen youngsters on scooters, no doubt nicked, hurtling down the pavement, and in traffic, with no crash helmets on at all.
First time was 2 scooters  doing 30-40mph on the pavement with one and two kids on them, wearing bandana's over their faces.
And near my work the other day another one, about 16yrs old, brazen as anything, just riding on the road, again with no hint of a crash helmet, with a stinking attitude face on him.
They simply don't give a shit, and have now found out that the police have been told not to touch them if they have no crash helmet on, so they're abusing the fact, and going out robbing people in the streets using these bikes.
I personally would have taken a much different approach which would undoubtedly not end too well on their part, but unfortunately that's not my decision to make.  :2guns

[Slaninar]

An alarm doesn't prevent kids from doing anything?

My experience differs. After a kid got burnt on my exhaust, I started activating alarm when parked in front of the house. So I can hear it, come out, check with parents it's OK and make sure they're safe when sitting, or take them for a ride in the street.

[Gnasher]

If someone really wants to nick your bike, they will, especially the pro's.
Alarms cause nothing but electrical issues.
Old school meaty chains are the best deterrent.

:agree


As with car alarms no one takes any notice, there's been many staged the thefts over the years, one I remember in MCN was right outside a main police station in London.  Large new sports bike parked out side, alarm fitted, white van 4 blokes pick up the bike load it into the van, alarm going, shut doors drove off, in less than 30 odd seconds.  No one battered an eyelid :eek


Yes alarms can be helpful but only to alert you, others will do nothing.  In fact I'm sure there was one of these staged thefts where someone did ask what they were doing, the actors had a alarm fob pretending to turn it off, the answer they gave was it's always going off!
   
If scum bag wants your bike they will get it unless you lock it to something or somehow that will make their life really hard, they'll go elsewhere.  I quality chain/lock will cost about £200 cheaper then most top range alarms, it's a no brainier, quality chain/lock and cheap alarm.   

[Slaninar]

As for locks and locking, It's definitely a safer option. Garage being the safest, of course.
An alarm as an additional complication to thieves doesn't harm. I wrote two articles on bicycle locks and locking techniques, and think the basics go for motorcycles as well - just go with even heavier chains - 12+mm thick:

http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/...cle-locks/

http://www.bike.bikegremlin.com/2015/09/...a-bicycle/

(WARNING: both links are in Tarzan English)

[darrsi]

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An alarm doesn't prevent kids from doing anything?

My experience differs. After a kid got burnt on my exhaust, I started activating alarm when parked in front of the house. So I can hear it, come out, check with parents it's OK and make sure they're safe when sitting, or take them for a ride in the street.
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Out of curiosity, how does an alarm stop a kid burning themselves?

Years ago my girlfriend at the time had this really inquisitive kid who would always come up and point at the exhaust saying "What's that?"
Obviously my reply was "That's called an exhaust, and is VERY HOT so NEVER touch it."

You can see where this is going......she touched the can after I had just gone indoors.
Never did it again though.......but can't see how an alarm would've helped anyway?

[Slaninar]

Out of curiosity, how does an alarm stop a kid burning themselves?

When they start fiddling with it, it makes sounds, so they back off. Before they climb onto it. Local kids usually start with bars, levers.