what oil should i use!!!!!

[pitternator]

I do recall such dave....you lucky smooth talkin person ! 

feck that does seem a long time ago now, but it was only just over 2 yrs.

I also still remember how lucky dek was when he had his blowout in 06, and you went off the road to see the scenery in 07. Makes u think life aint all that bad, cos it all could have been very diffrent outcome  :eek ....

oops, sorry ...going off topic!  :o

[PaulSmith]

Please do not use car oil of any sort in a motor cycle engine. There is a difference, but as I am not a chemist I cant clearly explain the difference. I have used only good quality engine oil on my bikes for the past 50 years and have never had a mechanical issue that you could put down to lubrication problems. Be careful. Have a good Xmas. Ask Santa for some expensive oil.

The only difference (assuming they both conform to the same SAE standards, and do not have friction modifiers) is that one charges a premium for putting the word "motorcycle" on the packaging.

[ghostbiker]

Although i dont use car oil, if you know what to look for then i have no doubt some of it is perfectly ok to use.
the main reason i use silkolen is its what my local bike shops stocks and i have used in most bikes for many years.  where possable is its only a couple £ more i will support the local guys as without him i know i would have to use a main dealer now and then and that would be a nightmare  :eek


i have 5ltrs of halfords stuff sitting in my cupboard right now waiting to go in my daughters ER5 and a top up bottle of my oil to so ill check the codes on the back but i have little doubt they will be pretty much the same.
as said many times but worth saying again, reg changes are far more important than oil quality

[cable tie]

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Please do not use car oil of any sort in a motor cycle engine. There is a difference, but as I am not a chemist I cant clearly explain the difference. I have used only good quality engine oil on my bikes for the past 50 years and have never had a mechanical issue that you could put down to lubrication problems. Be careful. Have a good Xmas. Ask Santa for some expensive oil.

The only difference (assuming they both conform to the same SAE standards, and do not have friction modifiers) is that one charges a premium for putting the word "motorcycle" on the packaging.
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Yep i agree with paul totally its all in the name, ive trawled the tinternet and looked hard into different oils car and bike and i would use car oil without a doubt.

[cable tie]

I do recall such dave....you lucky smooth talkin person ! 

feck that does seem a long time ago now, but it was only just over 2 yrs.

I also still remember how lucky dek was when he had his blowout in 06, and you went off the road to see the scenery in 07. Makes u think life aint all that bad, cos it all could have been very diffrent outcome  :eek ....

oops, sorry ...going off topic!  :o

Yeah jon, that day twas a learning curve,  you can make many mistakes in life but only make the same one once  :\
I wrecked a stunning bike gut wrenching, but we still hammered on racing up the stelvio with a flapping fairing  and i sold for the bike for what i paid for it so not all bad.

[Phil TK]

i know some peeps say fully syn is waisted on the fazer however at that price i thought its too good to turn down, so ive got enougth for 4 oil changes .

You could always mix it with purest mineral Castrol GTX, it would go even further then :lol
Keep it quiet, but I used GTX in the Fazer for 3000 miles during a particularly skint period in my life. It was a leftover can from the time I had a Gpz500S (putting in a higher spec oil would have doubled the value of that bike).  Truth be told I had meant to change it soonish but forgot, and left it untill the next oil change, it didn't seem to hurt the engine, no overheating in traffic or anything. I never got round to checking the numbers on the back of the GTX can so I'm not sure if it was technically suitable. Probably isn't.

[Falcon 269]

I ran a Volvo 240 GLT estate for 225,000 miles over 16 years on Castrol GTX 20w/50.  Changed every 5k miles, never burned a drop in all that time.

You can be fairly sure that the additives in that particular brand name of oil have changed in that time but once again, the key here is the oil change interval.

Essentially, any oil has a life expectancy in use - and dependent on type of use - beyond which its viscosity at operating temperature falls as a result of shearing and other chemical reactions within the oil.  In extreme cases, and I mean extreme, the oil eventually loses its ability to prevent metal on metal contact under pressure. 

You can run on basic mineral oil without causing any more wear or damage than the most exotic synthetics provided you change the mineral oil before it reaches the point where its viscosity index under temperature/load falls below the minimum required.