Oil filters

[Gnasher]

[size=1em]What utter bollocks      Yamaha supply bikes with fully synth in them from new matey [/size][/quote[size=1em]]Nope.  Anyway why would they do that when the oil is ditched at 600 miles?  Doh![/size]

Because you now pay for a first service and the oil and have been doing so for some time now it used to be free I wonder why..................... Doh

[size=1em]This is the Fazer forum, so this discussion is probably irrelevant considering the age of our bikes.  But it is a long standing known issue that bikes run in gently and then filled with fully synth after the 600 mile service can end up with polished bores.  Polished bores mean a bike that burns oil as the piston rings have failed to bed in.[/size]

Crap utter crap old school and old habits  Modern say mid 80's on engines are machined to far higher tolerances, also the use of improved and advanced materials and coatings (86 GSXR1100's had teflon coated bores) and semi synth and fully synth oils have all helped increase power, reduce wight, massively increase reliability, reduce wear.  Running an "engine in" is pretty much a waste of time since late 90's, running in by definition is fine machining, which wasn't possible with older materials, machining.  Running an engine at low fixed revs will not help they need varying revs.  Pistons rings don't need to bed in haven't for years, out of date practices not required with newer materials.

Talking of "utter bollocks", oil filters, your thin paint, low grade steel and pain to remove claims on hiflo filters?  Based on?

I've supplied/fitted 100's of Hiflo filters over the years they don't last outwardly as long as OE, they are cheaper because they are not the same quality of materials.  They still filter to the same standard that's why they've got TUV./font]