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Oil filters - Dudeofrude - 11-04-17
Are the branded ones any different? I've always used hiflo on my previous bikes but the fz has a genuine yamaha one on it.
I've had a look and they are double the price of the hi flo, I can't think of a reason why one could be considered more 'premium' than another?
Re: Oil filters - darrsi - 12-04-17
Not that you would notice.
All i will say is that i've tried the K&N one's before with the added nut for "ease of removal" then found that the nut has a plastic coating over it than didn't fit any socket i tried on it.
I recently bought a heavier duty chain wrench which is about 5 links wide so i'll never have that issue again no matter what i put on it now.
Think i went back to a Hi-Flo oil filter if i remember correctly last time.
As long as the oil is changed within the correct intervals then you won't have any issues. And i've started changing the filter every oil change now, rather than every 2 changes, but that's my personal preference. I also change the oil every 4000 miles rather than the advised 6000 miles but because i don't do a lot of miles that suits me just fine.
Re: Oil filters - slappy - 12-04-17
I have used HiFlo for years on various bikes, no problems with them.
Re: Oil filters - Grahamm - 12-04-17
(11-04-17, 10:47 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: Are the branded ones any different?
Only in price as you've already noticed! For day to day riding, you'll never know the difference.
Re: Oil filters - Dudeofrude - 12-04-17
Thanks guys that was I thought.
I tend to change the oil at the end of the winter and end of the summer just purely out of habit and peace of mind knowing it's keeping things clean. I do a lot of very short trips especially during the winter so for the sake of a few quid it keeps the engine im better condition.
I usually do the filter every oil change just because I get it free with the oil. £30 for 4 litres of silkolene and a hiflo filter, can't go wrong with that ??
Re: Oil filters - CaptainCazador - 12-04-17
[quote author=darrsi I recently bought a heavier duty chain wrench which is about 5 links wide so i'll never have that issue again no matter what i put on it now.
I have never required anything other than my hand to remove oil filters the ones I have fitted at least.
There's no need to wound an oil filter on like your life depends on it.
Re: Oil filters - darrsi - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 03:54 PM)CaptainCazador link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi I recently bought a heavier duty chain wrench which is about 5 links wide so i'll never have that issue again no matter what i put on it now.
I have never required anything other than my hand to remove oil filters the ones I have fitted at least.
There's no need to wound an oil filter on like your life depends on it.
It's for removing it, not putting it on.
Re: Oil filters - CaptainCazador - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 04:08 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=CaptainCazador link=topic=22346.msg258125#msg258125 date=1492008868]
[quote author=darrsi I recently bought a heavier duty chain wrench which is about 5 links wide so i'll never have that issue again no matter what i put on it now.
I have never required anything other than my hand to remove oil filters the ones I have fitted at least.
There's no need to wound an oil filter on like your life depends on it.
It's for removing it, not putting it on.
[/quote]
Really?
Re: Oil filters - darrsi - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 04:40 PM)CaptainCazador link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=22346.msg258130#msg258130 date=1492009691]
[quote author=CaptainCazador link=topic=22346.msg258125#msg258125 date=1492008868]
[quote author=darrsi I recently bought a heavier duty chain wrench which is about 5 links wide so i'll never have that issue again no matter what i put on it now.
I have never required anything other than my hand to remove oil filters the ones I have fitted at least.
There's no need to wound an oil filter on like your life depends on it.
It's for removing it, not putting it on.
[/quote]
Really?
[/quote]
No, I'm just making it all up. :rolleyes
Re: Oil filters - CaptainCazador - 12-04-17
You missed my point little man. There's no need to put an oil filter on so tight you require tools to remove it next time round.
All the filters I have ever fitted come off again the same way they went on which is with my right hand.
Re: Oil filters - lew600fazer - 12-04-17
I recently did an oil and filter change on my MT09 using a genuine Yamaha filter and Motul 10/50 semi synthetic (4ltr) container
I did the oil change early at 4500 miles, fecked if I am doing that again. It can run the Yamaha service advice distance now.
Oil + Filter + sump washer. €73.60. I asked the shop were they taking the piss. French do not understand taking the piss, what do you mean Monsieur?? I did point out I was doing this job myself so take off the labour charge , feck it forget.
Re: Oil filters - darrsi - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 05:24 PM)CaptainCazador link Wrote: You missed my point little man. There's no need to put an oil filter on so tight you require tools to remove it next time round.
All the filters I have ever fitted come off again the same way they went on which is with my right hand.
Good for you, i'll sleep better tonight knowing that.
Maybe you just have a particularly strong right hand, i can't imagine why.......
Re: Oil filters - slappy - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 05:24 PM)CaptainCazador link Wrote: You missed my point little man. There's no need to put an oil filter on so tight you require tools to remove it next time round.
All the filters I have ever fitted come off again the same way they went on which is with my right hand.
Nevef been able to undo any oil filter on any vehicle without some sort of wrench, thats what they are for. Next time I change it on my FZ1s you can come round and show me how you get your hand inbetwen the downpipes and grip the filter.
Re: Oil filters - Skippernick - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 05:24 PM)CaptainCazador link Wrote: You missed my point little man. There's no need to put an oil filter on so tight you require tools to remove it next time round.
All the filters I have ever fitted come off again the same way they went on which is with my right hand.
Have to say you're very lucky I've always needed a wench of some sort, the expansion and contraction of different metals and thickness's alone would mean it would get tighter, or fall off.
Re: Oil filters - Dudeofrude - 12-04-17
Do none of you just stick a screwdriver through it and twist? That's how I've always done it?
Re: Oil filters - VNA - 12-04-17
Yup, that's how I used to do it.
Then I bought a very low milage 3 year old car that had never had a service.
Stuck a screwdriver through the oil filter and it started to open up like a sardine can.
A lot of mucking about, and a day later I had the filter off. That was the last time I ever stuck a screwdriver though an oil filter.
Re: Oil filters - unfazed - 12-04-17
(12-04-17, 05:34 PM)lew600fazer link Wrote: I recently did an oil and filter change on my MT09 using a genuine Yamaha filter and Motul 10/50 semi synthetic (4ltr) container
I did the oil change early at 4500 miles, fecked if I am doing that again. It can run the Yamaha service advice distance now.
Oil + Filter + sump washer. €73.60. I asked the shop were they taking the piss. French do not understand taking the piss, what do you mean Monsieur?? I did point out I was doing this job myself so take off the labour charge , feck it forget.
Are you sure it was a washer and not a gold ring you bought. :eek
Even in our over priced little country it would only have cost €55 for that lot.
Re: Oil filters - lew600fazer - 12-04-17
Yeah I know nothing is cheap in France apart from wine, bread & cheese.
Re: Oil filters - fazersharp - 13-04-17
I only ever put it on by hand (with crap access ) but can never get it off by hand. Isnt that why the tools are called oil filter removal tools
Re: Oil filters - fazerscotty - 13-04-17
(13-04-17, 09:05 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: I only ever put it on by hand (with crap access ) but can never get it off by hand. Isnt that why the tools are called oil filter removal tools
You maybe onto something there............... :lol