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No sympathy for Gunmen
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(09-01-17, 12:02 PM)darrsi link Wrote: Haha, another can of worms entirely.
I've had this discussion with friends before and i've found that people tend not to look at the bigger picture.
For starters legalising drugs will play even more into dealers hands that will undercut any government run shops selling weed, for example.

Dealers would be first to petition for banning the drugs again. They're not into selling weed at the price of growing and harvesting. If the drugs weren't illegal, they'd be cheaply produced and mafia has no interest in honest work with small profit.


This way: false moral of "fighting drugs" image is "sold".
Mafia makes money.
Agencies have income that isn't taxed, nor controlled.
There's more crime, people are more easily scared.
And drugs are widely available across Europe.


(09-01-17, 12:02 PM)darrsi link Wrote:
Then you get people who have the impression that it will just be some mad free for all, when in reality you will get employers doing random drug testing due to a zero tolerance at work. Same as the police will step up again being even more alert for drug drivers which will result in long term bans.
If anything, the only real people who would benefit would be the ones that aren't working.
Holland's experience in legalising weed hasn't backfired for all I know - correct me if I'm wrong.
I'd do the same for all the other drugs.

(09-01-17, 12:02 PM)darrsi link Wrote:
All theory of course, and some people, as always, will think i'm talking shite, but that's the way i see things.
There is no real straightforward answer, because as i said earlier the demand is so great that the police will never ever control it as things stand right now.
They'd control it as much as they can control other legal high demand articles: tobacco, alcohol, petrol, bread, meat...


(09-01-17, 12:02 PM)darrsi link Wrote:
Also, which drugs should become legal?
I've got a few mates who rarely know what time of day or night it is, don't know the meaning of punctuality and are useless at work, and they just smoke the weed.
I know other people on the harder stuff that turn into absolute monsters when they're on a mission.
There is no easy answer unfortunately.


All the drugs. You are responsible for what you do. But legalising them would help addicts not need to do crime for getting the drugs.

If a grown man wants to kill themselves - government shouldn't force them to live. Help, yes, but not force.
If a man wants to loose their freedom of choice, he shouldn't be forced to do otherwise - because that's their choice!

(09-01-17, 12:02 PM)darrsi link Wrote: As for the NHS, they're going downhill fast due to the influx of people coming into the country and using the system without putting anything into it in the first place.


How much money is spent this way on "figthing drugs"?
Police equipment, numbers, overtime hours, higher level of drug related small crimes done by addicts...


I think legalising would turn out quite well for all but the mafia.
Most things done in a hurry need to be done again - patiently.
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No sympathy for Gunmen - by celticdog - 04-01-17, 02:50 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Dudeofrude - 04-01-17, 02:59 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Bretty - 04-01-17, 06:44 PM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by VNA - 04-01-17, 08:16 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Frosties - 04-01-17, 10:01 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by mtread - 04-01-17, 11:26 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 05-01-17, 12:01 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 05-01-17, 12:05 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by lew600fazer - 05-01-17, 12:52 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Grahamm - 05-01-17, 02:00 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 05-01-17, 08:00 AM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by mtread - 06-01-17, 11:01 PM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 09-01-17, 07:49 AM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 09-01-17, 12:02 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Slaninar - 09-01-17, 05:31 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by BBROWN1664 - 09-01-17, 06:07 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by VNA - 09-01-17, 10:57 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 09-01-17, 11:23 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Graham53 - 09-01-17, 11:34 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 10-01-17, 12:11 AM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by slappy - 10-01-17, 02:00 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Graham53 - 10-01-17, 02:28 PM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by slappy - 10-01-17, 10:37 PM
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Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Dudeofrude - 10-01-17, 11:48 PM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Slaninar - 11-01-17, 06:43 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 11-01-17, 07:18 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by BBROWN1664 - 11-01-17, 10:43 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by slappy - 11-01-17, 10:49 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Slaninar - 11-01-17, 10:52 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by Slaninar - 11-01-17, 10:58 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 11-01-17, 11:08 AM
Re: No sympathy for Gunmen - by darrsi - 11-01-17, 11:12 AM
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