06-01-17, 11:22 AM
lew, apologies ref your family but it was a general sweeping statement in reply to your answer ie if it was Your (as in the "Royal Your") family then I think most people would be looking for answers, especially as we're all law abiding but I could've phrased it better :rolleyes
The coroner in the Duggan programme dismissed his ability to throw the weapon due to injuries sustained to his arm though its possible he threw it en route before leaving the car but 3 different cops all gave conflicting evidence as to they all found the gun and the gun was in 3 different places. The coroner more or less called them liars. What is strange given their high training is that the ammo they're using is not suitable or the cop chose the wrong weapon to fire.
He was that close to Duggan that the bullet from his "rifle" passed straight through and hit his colleague behind Duggan, miraculously lodging in his radio but cop 2 thought he'd been shot and dropped into shock. For me, this is a wrong tactic and maybe a pistol should've been used or a lighter round. Imagine the outcry if the 2nd cop or a member of the public had died due to the bullet travelling on. Its a balance of stopping power v bullet trajectory (the idea being the bullet stays within the body but has the impact to take down the target without going through the target and continuing...hope that makes sense....Police marksmen have the ability on their range simulator to see the person drop then watch the trajectory/path of the round eg if a cop opens up in an airport, they can see the consequences of a rogue round in a built up area)
There was an innocent guy in London a few years back with a table/chair leg in a carrier bag and someone blew it in as a man with a gun, he was shot dead and uproar followed. Look at the cool response from the armed cops when those 2 cunts had killed Lee Rigby, they charged the Police and the Police (must've been shitting it) took their legs out. A calm operator doesn't have to shoot to kill,
I'm all for taking out the baddies but unless its done legally we'll just turn into a South American state where Police death squads operate
The coroner in the Duggan programme dismissed his ability to throw the weapon due to injuries sustained to his arm though its possible he threw it en route before leaving the car but 3 different cops all gave conflicting evidence as to they all found the gun and the gun was in 3 different places. The coroner more or less called them liars. What is strange given their high training is that the ammo they're using is not suitable or the cop chose the wrong weapon to fire.
He was that close to Duggan that the bullet from his "rifle" passed straight through and hit his colleague behind Duggan, miraculously lodging in his radio but cop 2 thought he'd been shot and dropped into shock. For me, this is a wrong tactic and maybe a pistol should've been used or a lighter round. Imagine the outcry if the 2nd cop or a member of the public had died due to the bullet travelling on. Its a balance of stopping power v bullet trajectory (the idea being the bullet stays within the body but has the impact to take down the target without going through the target and continuing...hope that makes sense....Police marksmen have the ability on their range simulator to see the person drop then watch the trajectory/path of the round eg if a cop opens up in an airport, they can see the consequences of a rogue round in a built up area)
There was an innocent guy in London a few years back with a table/chair leg in a carrier bag and someone blew it in as a man with a gun, he was shot dead and uproar followed. Look at the cool response from the armed cops when those 2 cunts had killed Lee Rigby, they charged the Police and the Police (must've been shitting it) took their legs out. A calm operator doesn't have to shoot to kill,
I'm all for taking out the baddies but unless its done legally we'll just turn into a South American state where Police death squads operate
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