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Rear Brake refurb
#41
(31-03-20, 02:16 PM)bandit link Wrote: Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.


Matey you're confusing pistons/seals with caliper body seal, which looks like a small washer and seals the gallery between the caliper half here top right one and only one.

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#42
(31-03-20, 02:28 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=bandit link=topic=26027.msg311506#msg311506 date=1585660602]
Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.
Matey you're confusing pistons/seals with caliper body seal, which looks like a small washer and seals the gallery between the caliper half here top right one and only one.
[/quote]One it is then. Could you point me to it on fowlers please. I just keep finding it as a kit and not on its own.
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#43
(31-03-20, 02:07 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: I cannot find the GS500 caliper split washer on fowlers as a separate item I would like to find it on fowlers so I can add it to the order if I can.


Here No 2


https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/528...ar-caliper


It's slightly smaller in O/D but works perfectly fitted loads on them. 
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#44
Great thanks but maybe i am not looking at the correct picture but its £16.44 and all I will be needing is 1 rubber washer  :eek
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#45
(31-03-20, 02:44 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Great thanks but maybe i am not looking at the correct picture but its £16.44 and all I will be needing is 1 rubber washer  :eek


Oh that's rocketed in price I bought about 30 of them years ago they were less than a £1, nothing surprises me with parts.  If you've got piston pliers and your caliper is as you say and the pistons are moving freely, you should be able to get the pistons out without splitting the body.  It just makes cleaning the seal rebates and fitting new seals a little harder, only you can make the decision.

Try without splitting if you have to you'll just have to bite the bullet and order the seal, Fowlers are good for delivery times. [/size][size=78%]      [/size]
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#46
Yep think I will get the webmoto one as mentioned in that case. From my research the washer is 10mm x3 mm ?.Fingers crossed I will be ok but just panicking that there will be a total lockdown and I will not be able to do the job for the sake of a stupid little washer  :lol 
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#47
(31-03-20, 02:28 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=bandit link=topic=26027.msg311506#msg311506 date=1585660602]
Your will need two trust me the GS500E has only one rear piston so only needs one body seal the Fzs600 as you know has two opposing ones look on Yambits & Powerhouse you need two as supplied their in the pic on Powerhouse & Yambits says two required.


Matey you're confusing pistons/seals with caliper body seal, which looks like a small washer and seals the gallery between the caliper half here top right one and only one.

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O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?


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#48
Fazersharp, I have never split a caliper to replace seals, I can see how it is probably easier to clean out the seal grooves but I found that by holding one piston in & blowing the other out with a car foot pump hold the piston in with something other than your fingers & prepare to jump as they come out sometimes with force do that side clean grooves fit seals lube seals push piston back in & repeat on the other side.
For blowing out the pistons insert a adaptor that comes with most pumps the long funnel shaped one into the caliper where the brake hose connects. Don't buy your seals from Wemoto as someone on here found they didn't fit.


The adaptor required a rag around it to seal against the caliper may required to get a airtight seal.


https://www.bikestop.co.uk/oxford-air-va...gK2ifD_BwE


Good luck.
 
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(31-03-20, 03:45 PM)bandit link Wrote: O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?


They're wrong, I would suggest you exercise caution when looking at independent aftermarket websites/sellers they often get it wrong.  The same goes for you offering advice to people on how to do things especially brakes when, by your own admission you've never done it and you clearly don't really know what your doing.  Confusedtop [size=78%]    [/size]
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(31-03-20, 04:14 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=bandit link=topic=26027.msg311517#msg311517 date=1585665944]
O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?


They're wrong, I would suggest you exercise caution when looking at independent aftermarket websites/sellers they often get it wrong.  The same goes for you offering advice to people on how to do things especially brakes when, by your own admission you've never done it and you clearly don't really know what your doing.  Confusedtop [size=78%]    [/size]
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Well really! done plenty of brake seals thanks so don't need any advise from you.
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#51
Ok so far I have ordered  the fowlers piston and seal kit, sbs ceramic pads, hel rear line. And am waiting to hear back  from powerhouse as to the size of split seal washer needed it maybe this one. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-brake-...ect=mobile
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#52
(31-03-20, 04:27 PM)bandit link Wrote: [quote author=Gnasher link=topic=26027.msg311519#msg311519 date=1585667683]
[quote author=bandit link=topic=26027.msg311517#msg311517 date=1585665944]
O.K then but I don't mean the piston fluid seals or dust seals as I have already stated on two different sites, these are neither & it says two?


They're wrong, I would suggest you exercise caution when looking at independent aftermarket websites/sellers they often get it wrong.  The same goes for you offering advice to people on how to do things especially brakes when, by your own admission you've never done it and you clearly don't really know what your doing.  Confusedtop [size=78%]    [/size]
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Well really! done plenty of brake seals thanks so don't need any advise from you.
[/quote]I've got an idea, gnasher says 1 and bandit says 2 > so I will buy 3 and then that covers all opinions :lol
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#53
SHARPIE...thats a great idea.buy three.use one on your caliiper.have one as a spare and give me the other one.... :thumbup


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#54
If there is one then that would explain why you first bleed from the back nipple wouldn't it ?
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#55
(31-03-20, 04:41 PM)red98 link Wrote: SHARPIE...thats a great idea.buy three.use one on your caliiper.have one as a spare and give me the other one.... :thumbup
Can you measure the diameter of the recess for me please. 
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#56
haven`t got a seal to measure but i can measure the the caliper body which should be good enough,give me a minute...
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#57
(31-03-20, 04:46 PM)red98 link Wrote: haven`t got a seal to measure but i can measure the the caliper body which should be good enough,give me a minute...
Great that's what I meant. I have heard back from powerhouse that tell me its 11mm - this one according to them https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-11mm-b...23458448ab 
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#58
(31-03-20, 04:27 PM)bandit link Wrote: Well really! done plenty of brake seals thanks so don't need any advise from you.


Clearly you do as you've got know idea, it all speaks for it's self.  Never done it, scour the internet for others advice/Utube etc the offer advice to others which is wrong  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

It would be funny, but it's not others will believe you and get it wrong or it this case spend money the don't have to.  Mine you people like you do put money my way  Wink as owners bring their bikes to me after they've tried following internet forum advice form the likes of you or tried following Utube, only to find out they've been told wrong and it's not as easy as it looks. 
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(31-03-20, 04:42 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: If there is one then that would explain why you first bleed from the back nipple wouldn't it ?


Sure is  Wink Smile 
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bit unsteady with the camera.i need 3 right hands  :lol


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