13-05-18, 01:46 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-06-21, 04:03 PM by b1k3rdude.)
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Like many others I have been aware of this Bull$hit for a while now, but as the new ULEZ (Ultra low emission zone) is coming into force by 8th April 2019 I thought I'd better check the status of both my bikes, a 2006 Bandit 1200 & 2005 Fazer 1000. Both bikes were were ' according to TFL" NO LONGER Euro 3 exempt. I found all the relevant sites where you can put in your reg and it will tell you if your bike is exempt -
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If you know your bike is Euro3 compliant but - - The date of registration is before 01st July 2007, TFL will consider it non-compliant.
- The date is as above but the Exhaust Emission section is populated, then all you need to do is send a copy of the V5C to the ULEZ dept at TFL and they will then update the website to show it as compliant.(may not require having to create a TFL account so good).
- But if the date is before 01/01/07 and the Exhaust Emission section is not-populated, then you can either request a letter of homologation from Yamaha stating the Euro3 status (I believe there is no charge for this, which is the route I am going down).
- Or you can just pay the £75 to Yamaha to get a CoC if the bike is older than 2002 (Euro3 came in for motorcycles in 2002)
- Honda don't charge for the CoC, while all the others do - Yamaha(£70), Kawasaki (TBC), Suzuki (£90).
- An alternative (albeit scam) option, if you can't get a Euro3 status letter or a CoC, is to get it emissions (NOx) tested (see below)
[size=1.35em] Only testing center in London/Uk.
[/size] - The owner has a family member who works inside TFL. This may or may not explain why -
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[li]This shop (Riverbank m/c) is only place with the ability to do the emissions test for ULEZ compliance.
- The charge is £175 and is what most people would consider a scam.
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- If your bike fails the emissions test, RB m/c charge £75 to jam a catalytic convertor into the exhaust (link pipe) of carburetted vehicle.
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[li]As understand it, fitting a cat to a carburetted vehicle will at best last few months before the cat is useless, therefor fitting it would appear to be fraudulent?
- The owner has been quoted as saying 'it doesn't matter, once the bike has passed the test you can just remove it'. I will leave the obvious conclusion to you the motorcyclist.
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- Here is a report of a Yamaha RD350 & TDR250 passing the above test, which shows ULEZ is basically a scam.
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(13-05-18, 01:46 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: I found all the relevant sites where you can put in your reg and it will tell you if your bike is exempt -
... At the moment.
IIRC there's already plans to decrease the emissions levels in the next few years, despite the fact that bikes reduce congestion and, thus, pollution 
Obviously does affect my bike, but not my daily commute, so for now i'm not too bothered, but i'm sure they will make the ULEZ zones bigger and more widespread as time goes on.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
I'm surprised they haven't blamed the raise in the number of murders/ knife crime in London on vehicle pollution so they can screw a bit more money out of the motorists.
By 2020 Leeds and at least 4 more places will have " clean air zones" and like London these zones will get bigger and bigger and more expensive as they realise how much money they can make out of them.
Just another ploy to use the enviroment as a tax generator and to put the poor and working class back on the bus where they belong, leaving the roads clear for their betters.
(14-05-18, 08:52 AM)slappy link Wrote: and to put the poor and working class back on the bus where they belong Have you been on a bus recently - or at least out here in middle earth you have to be rich to use a bus
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
14-05-18, 01:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-05-18, 02:00 PM by b1k3rdude.)
(14-05-18, 12:00 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Have you been on a bus recently - or at least out here in middle earth you have to be rich to use a bus That the irony of it all, a bike is and has been cheaper the public transport for a very long time now. I live in Hertfordshire and London at peak times is horrendously expensive @ £25 for 1 day travel card (the return ticket being no better),where as £25 gets me just over two days travel on the bike. And the cost effectiveness of the bike gets even better when used for local journey's.
What would happen if everyone stopped using their own transport for a week and relied on public transport to work, and nobody bought fuel for vehicles that week. The country would come to a grinding halt, and the treasury would loose millions in fuel tax, vat, and rip off congestion/emission charges. I know it wont happen but perhaps those in power would be more careful when dreaming up schemes to rip drivers off if it did.
(14-05-18, 04:10 PM)steve 10562cc link Wrote: What would happen if everyone stopped using their own transport for a week and relied on public transport to work, and nobody bought fuel for vehicles that week. The country would come to a grinding halt
That actually happened about 20 years ago didn't it when there was those blockades of the refinery's.
It was a bit like Mad Max 2 with everyone searching for the fuel, the precious fuel!.
For anything like that to work all drivers would have to join in no private cars, 4x4s so no one would have a need to buy fuel Left bikes out, as there would be no SMDSY no D**K heads in 4X4S, Audis, BMWs, Mercs or any other cage so it would be safer for us to ride.
(14-05-18, 05:11 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: That actually happened about 20 years ago didn't it when there was those blockades of the refinery's.
It was a bit like Mad Max 2 with everyone searching for the fuel, the precious fuel!.
I remember it well. I had enough petrol in my car to get me to/from work for a few more days (about 50 mile round trip) and the company wanted to send me up to Corby for a few days.
I agreed to go on the proviso that they found me a diesel car with a full tank of fuel so I could get home again to Sussex. They found one with half a tank and our warehouse in Corby had its own fuel bunker for the trucks so I could fill it up for the return.
On arriving in Corby they were made to fill the car up BEFORE I started any work so I knew I would get home 
the roads were deserted though. It was a lovely drive there and back.
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
So when they expand the zone as far out as the North & South circular roads in October 2021 is that going to encompass The Ace Cafe?. The actual premises is on the 'outer' side of that road, but will the road to access it be included in the ULEZ charge?.
'Historic' vehicles have an exemption and obviously the really modern bikes are OK, but it would financially affect the riders of everything accesing The Ace that was produced between 1978 and the introduction of Euro 3 wouldn't it?.
Don't expect to see so many classic 80's Japanese two-strokes attending events there in the future if that's the case :rolleyes .
Bath's clean air zone is being muted, but won't include any form of motorbike, there is some forward thinking about.
Red Heads - Slowly taking over the world!!!
the ACE CAFE will be out side the zone travailing on the north circular will be ok
^that's true if it's like existing congestion charge zone. You can skirt round it but not enter it.
I live in central london and will be screwed. It will be time to give up biking I think, as anything decent gets nicked or someone will stab you for it at the lights. :-(
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Time to up sticks and Foc off from Laaaaaaaanddddaaaaan, the place is becoming a disaster area anyway, almost as clean as Mumbai
I am so glad I don't live in London, to many people no open roads, jesus ,
sent from my carafan in tenby, 
(13-05-18, 01:46 PM)b1k3rdude link Wrote: I thought I'd better check the status of both my bikes - 2006 Bandit 1200 & 2005 Fazer 1000 (both are Euro 3 so are exempt). Either I miss-read or the status of the bikes was changed, because now both bikes no longer are and will have to be sold -
- http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,24804.0.html
(24-11-18, 11:57 AM)Skippernick link Wrote: Bath's clean air zone is being muted, but won't include any form of motorbike, there is some forward thinking about.
For now
Anyone else seen this: https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2019...adiq-khan/
Basically, if you can prove you old pre-2007 bike produces less than 0.15 g/km NOx, there's a fair chance it could be made exempt from the ULEZ. So, anyone got any stats for the our FZS600's or FZS1000's? No mention of NOx on the V5 for my 2003 FZS600.
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