Because bikes are now marketed as toys for those with disposable income rather than as a cheap mode of transport for the masses, the marketing people at the oil companies know that these modern bike owners are prepared to pay a premium for oil rebadged as being specifically for bikes. If you're happy paying thirty odd quid for your oil, then fine, whatever makes you feel good. I will continue using car oil in my 160bhp ZRX and in all my other bikes.
As I said earlier I have to keep a barrel of bike specific oils for people whose bikes I work on who won't be persuaded that they are being conned. I paid fifty quid for 25l of Elf oil. Funny thing is these people who insist on having the bike specific oil also insist on paying a premium for it, so that barrel will be used up at thirty quid for each four litre refill. If I charged them any less they wouldn't be happy.
I'll continue letting this be bumped.
I normally use 10/40w Castrol GTX in my bike (good semi synth car oil), didn't have any laying around this time, so put in Halfrauds 10/40w semi synth. No problems yet, also 'car' oil.
(09-09-14, 10:31 PM)Pal link Wrote: Because bikes are now marketed as toys for those with disposable income rather than as a cheap mode of transport for the masses, the marketing people at the oil companies know that these modern bike owners are prepared to pay a premium for oil rebadged as being specifically for bikes. If you're happy paying thirty odd quid for your oil, then fine, whatever makes you feel good. I will continue using car oil in my 160bhp ZRX and in all my other bikes.
As I said earlier I have to keep a barrel of bike specific oils for people whose bikes I work on who won't be persuaded that they are being conned. I paid fifty quid for 25l of Elf oil. Funny thing is these people who insist on having the bike specific oil also insist on paying a premium for it, so that barrel will be used up at thirty quid for each four litre refill. If I charged them any less they wouldn't be happy.
There exists some contested argument both lines....Read up on bike wet clutches and contaminant due to wear, read up on car dry clutches, read up slip agents, on friction and viscosity, engine materials and stress/fatigue
You'll actually find market forces at work rather than you sinister perception perhaps... The oil companies respond to demand, if all the 'modern bike owners' you refer to did not demand it, then we would all be sticking car oil in our engines... But we don't... Because we're not conned by proper riders who spend grands on a ZRX THEN scrimp on a few quid in proper oil.
Who cares..Carry on mate... You do what feels best for ya,
In fact let me help you...ALDI have an offer on, 5ltr car oil for £4.99 .... Hurry , but if you are going to ignore the labels on oil ... run your ZXR on their veg oil, a mouth watering 99p. :rollin
To show I'm only taking the piss a little... Here is something from the respected MCN you will enjoy...
http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/oiltest1.htm
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Quote:Who cares..Carry on mate... You do what feels best for ya,
In fact let me help you...ALDI have an offer on, 5ltr car oil for £4.99 .... Hurry , but if you are going to ignore the labels on oil ... run your ZXR on their veg oil, a mouth watering 99p
That would be ZRX not ZXR mate. :rolleyes
Think i would trust pal as he does a lot of engine work on the zrx forum of which i am a member as i also have a zrx1200r,he can strip your engine and make your bike give you a big smile. 
Great. Good luck and enjoy the ride then  if youre using magnatec then you too can become an expert engine stripper and put smiles on faces :lol
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(06-04-12, 05:34 PM)janner_10 link Wrote: Been using Asda 10 / 40 for the last 15k miles - changed every 2k miles and oil filter every other change - change the clutch springs recently - looks brand new inside @ 37k miles now!
EDIT: Its £16 for 5L too!! Ofcourse there's no problem, you're not giving it a chance to chew it before it shits it lol
Women have chocolate men have bikes.....
including ones who like chocolate....
never said i was using magnatec i use heine gericke 10/40 of which i have a good amount of stashed away,i only asked if this was a oil that could be used as it was cheap at the time.
(11-09-14, 11:00 AM)keno link Wrote: never said i was using magnatec i use heine gericke 10/40 of which i have a good amount of stashed away,i only asked if this was a oil that could be used as it was cheap at the time.
It's the subject title that's probably why people are thinking that.
But as i said earlier, i have actually used Magnatec myself in one of my bikes, and can personally say it did not like it at all and i would never use it again.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
(11-09-14, 12:42 PM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=keno link=topic=2475.msg165901#msg165901 date=1410429633]
never said i was using magnatec i use heine gericke 10/40 of which i have a good amount of stashed away,i only asked if this was a oil that could be used as it was cheap at the time.
It's the subject title that's probably why people are thinking that.
But as i said earlier, i have actually used Magnatec myself in one of my bikes, and can personally say it did not like it at all and i would never use it again.
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Quote:It's the subject title that's probably why people are thinking that.
Yep i know mate 2 years old now.
I had forgot all about the thread until it reared its head again.
Never used magnatec and never will,cant even use heine gericke when my stash runs out as its discontinued as far as i know,same oil as motul good stuff.
Think tweetypie needs to chill 8)
(12-09-14, 11:21 AM)keno link Wrote: Quote:It's the subject title that's probably why people are thinking that.
Yep i know mate 2 years old now.
I had forgot all about the thread until it reared its head again.
Never used magnatec and never will,cant even use heine gericke when my stash runs out as its discontinued as far as i know,same oil as motul good stuff.
Think tweetypie needs to chill 8)
Oh, the irony, my surname is actually Silvester. :rollin :rollin :rollin
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Quote:Oh, the irony, my surname is actually Silvester
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Even though the last bit was for tweetytek
Foc off !
I don't need to chill. Were all different. Different morals different lives different mindset. It's the age thing. Don't worry , you'll grow up in time , just like all boys do.
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48 years of age and never want to grow up.
Foc off to another forum dipshit
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