The great/rubbish light debacle...

[dcurzon]

Hmm, I've not tried the flash button... Not too worried about that either - most of my riding is city

[davidkent]

I'd imagine wiring like that to the solenoid is correct, but you'd also need that to feed the light / ballast to make the light illuminate too.
This is all very we'll but it's pretty useless with HIDs anyway as they generally need time to warm up as such anyway, it'll flash briefly even with the lights off but be more effective with the lights on, however generally you should ride with light on for visibility anyway, I guess riding with just the angel eyes on would be appealing because of how they look, through.

[dcurzon]

Flash to pass works fine from lights off or on. But as above, it's not great for HID's to flash on and off.

Look at cars that have projectors (where the car has seperate high beam light and low beam light), the high beam is always a halogen.

[davidkent]

Yeah, prime example my bmw has projector xenons, but they don't flash, the halogen main beam flashes

[dcurzon]

! Private video




lights off, halos only, then lights on

[ChristoT]

! Private video




lights off, halos only, then lights on

Wow, a Fazer with decent headlamps!!  :lol :lol

[apage16]

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lights off, halos only, then lights on

Wow, a Fazer with decent headlamps!!  :lol :lol
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And you'll have one yourself , soon enough!! 

[ChristoT]

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[quote author=dcurzon link=topic=11494.msg145037#msg145037 date=1398632827]
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lights off, halos only, then lights on

Wow, a Fazer with decent headlamps!!  :lol :lol
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And you'll have one yourself , soon enough!! 
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Yep!

[dcurzon]

You can see on the vid how the HID's start out very blue then after about 10 seconds of warm up they're much whiter.
Having already gone down the various paths of enabling low beam on the rhs, then upgrading to Osram Nightbreakers, then fitting HID bulbs, and finally going to projectors, i am now happy with the light performance.  I just need to tweak the alignment, maybe up a smidge.
Most of my riding is in London, but, getting there is unlit Essex country roads for about 12 miles.  Not so bad now we're in BST admittedly.
I did take some footage of the lights on said country roads, but i accidentally overwrote it...

[AndyL]

Where do the projectors stand legally? Sorry I know this has cropped up before but my searching abilities are letting me down.

[mickvp]

Where do the projectors stand legally? Sorry I know this has cropped up before but my searching abilities are letting me down.

Last time I looked into it - aftermarket hid kits were illegal, unless fitted in a proper projector headlight unit with an auto balancing/levelling unit, and there was also a requirement for headlight washers too.

Admittedly, this was for its use in a car, and not specifically on a bike, but I would imagine the legislation carries over?

[dcurzon]

S'far as I'm aware, it was stated as specifically for a car. No such legislation in place for bike.

(I have my standard lights just in case)

[MarkWales]

They look amazing - any idea of a price for the kit?

[Wouter (Retrofitlab.com)]

Hello guys, this is Wouter from Retrofitlab, I developped the kit for this bike.
This kit is not yet on our website but we will add it in the near future. Darren told me that some of you were interested in this kit. We could set up a groupbuy for this kit and ship all the kits to one address to save on shipping costs as well.


Normally the price of this kit will be around € 215 ex shipping which is about 180 GBP.
We are willing to give 2% discount per participant, up to 20%!


Please reply when interested, so that we can get this thing started :-)


The kit is available of course for left and right hand drive.

[MarkWales]

Great news Thanks for the update

[Fuzzy]

Looks great this, what the Fazer should have had from the factory. Am tempted

[dcurzon]

Looks great this, what the Fazer should have had from the factory. Am tempted

To be honest, I wish I'd gone down this path at the beginning rather than dick around with bulbs etc. the difference, excuse the pun, is night n day.

It might seem steep but consider what you're getting, from a reputable company, with decent warranty, and it's a bloody good investment. If you get 9-10 for a group buy then it's an absolute steal at <£150.

[Timbollew]

I'm interested although not sure when I'll have the cash. If someone could give me a dummies guide to wiring them I would be pretty much guaranteed to get this kit.

[Derpdiherp]

Don't post here often but consider me interested too! Almost shat myself on woodhead pass unlit a while back with the nightbreakers in. I'd really like clarification of the legality of this though, I'd hate to be pulled over and have the bike taken :/

[davidkent]

The bike wouldn't ever get taken, worst case you'd have an improvement order or something.

Tbh they can't really do anything, can hardly tell, so many cars and bikes have xenons these days, if they're behind projectors like these the beam will be controlled and not scattered. They'll be absolutely fine.

I'd love some for the fox eye but at the moment other priorities with money are around, looking into buying my first house next year so saving money is a must at the moment!