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thundercat vs Fazer
#41
Interesting...36mm vs 33mm carbs, and all for a claimed 5hp extra, not much difference at all.

Am thinking now that because the T'cat had both a steel frame and swingarm, the claimed 187kg dry weight is sheer fiction...
Can anyone confirm whether the Fazer is actually 189kg dry / 210kg wet?
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#42
Official figures are:

Fazer 600
1998-1999 Weight with oil and Full tank is 210Kg

2000-2001 Weight with oil and Full tank is 212Kg

2002-2003 Weight with oil and Full tank is 214Kg

Difference between the 600s is most likely due larger capacity Tank, cannot really see any other reason

Fazer 400
1997-1998 Weight with oil and Full tank is 199Kg
Some differences which would change the weight, No grab rail, smaller carbs, smaller pistons, no oil cooler, no fuel pump, smaller chain and sprockets
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#43
Had a '96 Cat.. Not sure how they got the 187kg dry weight figure? .. Wow you wouldnt want one landing on ya toe  :eek
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it...
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#44
All I know is: I enjoy riding my Foxeye more than my VFR 12... (no, really)


In fact I'm keeping the Foxeye, selling the Viffer and getting a MT-09 Tracer to replace it
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#45
Nice interesting discussion.

I'm in the process of selling my Tcat, that I've had for 6 years and 26k miles, and can confirm that the frame and swing arm are steel. Which does make it a heavy thing.
The Fz1S that I have just bought is a lot easier to man handle into and out of the garage. The riding position is a lot better as well, now I'm getting on a bit.  :b

Loved the Tcat though, unfortunately she has to go.  Sad
Life's a bitch. Enjoy it while you can.
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#46
I still feel nostalgic about my old FZR600R fox eye. A better looking older brother of the 'Cat (but lacked the blue spot calipers, though they bolt straight on). My mate has still got his.
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There's no replacement for displacement
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#47
i`ve had my boxeye for  over 4 years now  had cbr , gsxr ,zx6r ,bandit6, and a zzr600 in past  (i have short legs)  never had a cat  but found that even as standard the fazer is alot better than a bandit speed and handling,  i did the piggy back gen 1 rear shock mod and thicker oil and spacers in front legs a couple years ago which made a big difference, then last year r6 rear + some different front springs (cheers jeff) kebab )) spent time tweeking and fidling to get a happy set up  now handles great gearing is down 1 on front up 1 on rear  goes like a rocket pulls out of corners like a misile and is well planted  it shows alot of bigger stuff up !  went to germany last year and on autobounds saw 140+ and still had some left
but im not interested in top end 0-ton is more fun and to be honest spend more time 60-120mph  where its fun and carving corners is just a delight and at end of day when all mates backs and wrists are aching etc "i`m just chilled"  Smile Smile Smile
  oh n i got £1500 in her not  £7k + like the plastic rocket crew
waters wet, shit stinks !
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