Exup cable replacement cheap alternative ?
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Exup cable replacement cheap alternative ?
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03-03-13, 12:29 PM
Just a thought lads.........
www.venhill.co.uk/Cables_-_Components_&_Kits/Universal_Cable_Kits/U01-11-100_UNIVERSAL_EXUP_CABLE_REPAIR_KIT.html 
03-03-13, 01:48 PM
nipples not up to it..............where have i heard that before!
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03-03-13, 06:37 PM
They wont sell them as they cannot get the nipples to stay on. I ordered some in December only for them to call me and then refund my payment as they knew they would not work....
Tom Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 
If you change those grub-screw ends for one that you solder on and use those end at the servo end, I imagine they should work fine.
If a soldered nipple can stay on the end of a clutch cable then it should work for the exup cable. The issue with those 2mm grub screws by the looks of it is you can screw them in tight enough. That and if the cable outers are poorly adjusted then stress is being undully places on said nipple screws etc pulling them out.
03-03-13, 11:50 PM
Venhills reason was that the heat of the exhaust meant the solder went fluid and the nipple would fall off. Apparently Yamaha use a higher temperature solder which they dont have and rhwy did not reccomend the grub screw ones as the heat caused the grub screws to work loose....
Tom
04-03-13, 12:56 AM
(03-03-13, 11:50 PM)Topcat2006 link Wrote: Venhills reason was that the heat of the exhaust meant the solder went fluid and the nipple would fall off. Apparently Yamaha use a higher temperature solder which they dont have and rhwy did not reccomend the grub screw ones as the heat caused the grub screws to work loose....Why not get the ends brazed on,then they won't fall off
04-03-13, 07:10 AM
I got the feeling that anything other than doing it normally was way outside venhills comfort zone and something they did not want to do....
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well another option I'm guessing would be to use a pushbike cable repair kit, but again I don't know the temp range of the solder used.
I got curious so looked up various temps - normal solder - 190c silver solder - 450c silver brazing - 600c Brass brazing - 900c Copper brazing - 1100c So I wonder what temp the bottom of the headers gets too..?
04-03-13, 12:39 PM
several peeps have used the venhill soldered kit and reported swift failure of the nipples, hence why venhill don't offer it any more.
with the r&d required, investment in tooling etc for brazing against potential sales it's not worth their while putting their reputation on the line when it focc's up. better off finding a decent s/h set............and funnily enough 
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04-03-13, 04:17 PM
The heat required for brazing damages the small diameter cable so the cable will snap just on the outside of the nipple. Best thing to do is swage them on with a hydraulic press.
04-03-13, 09:37 PM
I think we might be in luck with these, i was reading in classic machanics, there is a company making exup cabels for the older exups, and i think the early r1, im at work at the mo, so will go though the mag when i get home, and post later or tommorow. Tex
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07-03-13, 02:51 PM
07-03-13, 09:29 PM
Yes found it today, it is venhill, they are doing replacement cables for the exups, not sure if it includes our one. I am going to give them a ring over the weekend, as the pevious posts on here said they were not very good , and stopped making them. It was advertised in the mag a few months ago, so i would presume it is new!! tex
the night i was born, lord the moon stood a fire red., my poor mother her crying,
she said the gypsy was right, and she fell right dead |
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