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Different Headlamp
#41
Shame the bulbs didn't work darrsi but it was worth a try.
I think I'm going to buy another headlight unit and retrofit some decent projector lenses into them.
The amount of money and time I've put into bulbs over the past year is unreal, I think the technology for LED headlight bulbs in reflector lenses isn't quite there yet and also I'm pissing into the wind here because it's the actual headlight and reflector unit on the bike which is badly designed so I reckon I'm going for projectors next.
Wish me luck!  :lol
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#42
Try these  https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/product...motorcycle


based in UK...
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#43
Darrsi - the spots are mounted on the top radiator side plate.....sooooooooo how about banging another set of spots on the lower screws - you'd look like an X-Wing fighter then.
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#44
(06-11-18, 10:38 PM)mobile mouse link Wrote: Try these  https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/product...motorcycle


based in UK...


There are several like this about.......in H4.......which is fine for 02-03 bikes.


The problem is that 98-01 bikes have 1 x H4 and 1 x H1 bulb.


The H1 has a very slim fitted part where the bulb goes through the headlight unit, but as the O.P. has found out some of the upgraded bulbs are round and don't fit.
Also, the H1 bulb pushes in to a holder (photo of mine on Page 1) that then gets clipped down with that funny shaped wire clip. This is no good if you have heat dissipating fins or a fan on the rear of upgraded bulbs as it cannot be secured to the headlight unit.
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#45
(06-11-18, 12:13 PM)Northern Biker link Wrote: Shame the bulbs didn't work darrsi but it was worth a try.
I think I'm going to buy another headlight unit and retrofit some decent projector lenses into them.
The amount of money and time I've put into bulbs over the past year is unreal, I think the technology for LED headlight bulbs in reflector lenses isn't quite there yet and also I'm pissing into the wind here because it's the actual headlight and reflector unit on the bike which is badly designed so I reckon I'm going for projectors next.
Wish me luck!  :lol


I think the reflectors are just a bit pony for starters, but then you have the fairing area directly in front of the light reflectors which i think is what gives it that yellow coloured dulling effect.
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#46
(06-11-18, 11:30 PM)Frosties link Wrote: Darrsi - the spots are mounted on the top radiator side plate.....sooooooooo how about banging another set of spots on the lower screws - you'd look like an X-Wing fighter then.


The annoying thing as i've said before is when you see these new scooters that have headlights that literally put ours to shame.


At night time i just wanted the headlights to be of a similar colour to my spots, i don't expect them to chuck out the same beam, although that would be very nice, but having two bright white spots with two slightly yellow tinted headlights in comparison just doesn't seem right or look that great either.
Maybe it's a set up that gets noticed more on the road though, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all.
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#47
They also do H1 LED bulbs.


https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/product...sion-9-32v



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#48
(07-11-18, 10:34 PM)mobile mouse link Wrote: They also do H1 LED bulbs.


https://www.classiccarleds.co.uk/product...sion-9-32v


I've explained above why these are no good!
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#49
To be honest i don't think you'll find a buld alone is going to help. Projector type mods seem to be the only way....or there's this option  :rolleyes


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#50
(08-11-18, 11:48 PM)Frosties link Wrote: To be honest i don't think you'll find a buld alone is going to help. Projector type mods seem to be the only way....or there's this option  :rolleyes


Exactly that, i do think that these bulbs i'm using now are a tiny bit whiter to look at than the Philips Extreme, but as a projected beam of light on the floor ahead, with the spots turned off, they're just not getting the reflection that they need to do their job properly.
I have no doubt at all if they were put into a cars headlight unit for example they would highly likely be a great improvement over standard bulbs.
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#51
Having projector spots on the side of the radiator looks fine.

My fear would be that if you did have a low side off or even just drop the bike while at a stand still would the spots not wreck the radiator? This would be bad enough if it were to happen getting it out of the shed or garage or putting it away, but should it happen 50 miles from home you are now in serious trouble with a busted radiator and no way of riding anywhere.

As Darrsi has said the projector spots are absolutely brilliant and really illuminate the road ahead, I have my spots focused ahead at about 30 feet to the centre of the beam.
I find this position does not dazzle oncoming drivers but really lights up the edge of the road and give good warning of debris and road kill you would sooner not ride through. the spots that I fitted I can only describe as shockingly white and just nudging up against a smallest hint of blue.
I have a pair of H4 Xenon Ultra White competition bulbs (Halfords) in my 2003 reg FZS600, now when I put these in they were so much whiter that the standard H4 halogen bulb, but with the spots switched on they still look yellowish.

I will go the LED route, but it appears that the wire retaining clip that holds the bulb in place seems to be hindered by the heat sink that is on most of the LED's making it impossible to fit. if this is the case, it makes me wonder how they are fitted to cars as the H4 fittings all look identical.

I had to take the 4th picture named 'OK' from above the projector beam because the beam is so bright my camera phone refused to capture an image. 


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#52
Here is a short video clip of the lights on my FZS 600 Foxeye.
Again could not lower the camera into the beams as it just refused to capture an image, but what it does show is that all the lights do not overpower the indicators as some have said in the past.


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#53
(09-11-18, 09:07 AM)tommyardin link Wrote: Having projector spots on the side of the radiator looks fine.

[size=10pt][font=verdana]My fear would be that if you did have a low side off or even just drop the bike while at a stand still would the spots not wreck the radiator? This would be bad enough if it were to happen getting it out of the shed or garage or putting it away, but should it happen 50 miles from home you are now in serious trouble with a busted radiator and no way of riding anywhere.

Sorry to flog this horse a little more but i like the mount you have here Tommy. My bike doesn't have this metal pipe attached to the chassis to mount the spots and offer crash protection though. Is this something you welded on yourself?
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#54
(09-11-18, 09:07 AM)tommyardin link Wrote: Having projector spots on the side of the radiator looks fine.

My fear would be that if you did have a low side off or even just drop the bike while at a stand still would the spots not wreck the radiator? This would be bad enough if it were to happen getting it out of the shed or garage or putting it away, but should it happen 50 miles from home you are now in serious trouble with a busted radiator and no way of riding anywhere.

As Darrsi has said the projector spots are absolutely brilliant and really illuminate the road ahead, I have my spots focused ahead at about 30 feet to the centre of the beam.
I find this position does not dazzle oncoming drivers but really lights up the edge of the road and give good warning of debris and road kill you would sooner not ride through. the spots that I fitted I can only describe as shockingly white and just nudging up against a smallest hint of blue.
I have a pair of H4 Xenon Ultra White competition bulbs (Halfords) in my 2003 reg FZS600, now when I put these in they were so much whiter that the standard H4 halogen bulb, but with the spots switched on they still look yellowish.

I will go the LED route, but it appears that the wire retaining clip that holds the bulb in place seems to be hindered by the heat sink that is on most of the LED's making it impossible to fit. if this is the case, it makes me wonder how they are fitted to cars as the H4 fittings all look identical.

I had to take the 4th picture named 'OK' from above the projector beam because the beam is so bright my camera phone refused to capture an image. 


Hi Tommy, I've mounted the same 10W Crees on my Bandit (about 2 yr ago) at the same rad top screw as the Fazer. The bike has been over 3 times and all these Cree spots do is fold in on their mounting - nothing breaks or twists. Just need to reset the spots.
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