just test-rode a FZS 1000 - lovely, but..

[Ianboydsnr]

Guys, thanks again for all the good advice.  (I'd been counter-steering and needed to put on quite some pressure to get it to hold a line).  Hope everyone has a good Christmas, and I'm hoping santa brings a Fazer (not much chance of that though)!

The bike should be set up so it goes where you point it, you should only need to actively counter steer, at slow speeds or in an emergency, you will counter steer instinctively, if you raise the rear or lower the front, it will steer quicker, for me I find that the gen 1 needs to steer quicker than it comes from the factory, but the fzs600 is ok standard, however the fz6 is even slower than the gen1, front tyres can effect this, your meant to adjust them to you, some bikes would be awful to ride on the standard factory setup!

[wezdavo]

[quote author=apage16 link=topic=10943.msg117947#msg117947 date=1387844419]
The 600 is fantastic. But I'm 6'4" and nearly 15st so the extra room would be nice!
[/quote]I think power to weight ratio is a big factor,I think you on a 600 is the equivalent of me at 5,8" and 91/2 stone on a 250 and not my 600. I think the 1000 would be a perfect bike for you.

How do you work this one? That's like saying you on a 250 would match him on a 600...

Remember the bike isn't carrying the weight more rolling it, so because your 5 stone lighter or 50% doesn't mean you could lower the capacity or power 50% and be able to keep up..

But yes I agree the thou would suit him better due to his physical size..

[fazersharp]

Wasn't expecting anyone to get a calculator and a slide rule out, it was just a back of an envelope quick point.
Maybe I should of said 400 not 250 What about me and him on the same 600 ----- I will win
Me and him on a 1000 --- the best rider will win and that's the difference

[apage16]

TBH , it sounds like a great day out for everyone! We ALL win!  :lol

[PaulSmith]

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How do you work this one? That's like saying you on a 250 would match him on a 600...

Remember the bike isn't carrying the weight more rolling it, so because your 5 stone lighter or 50% doesn't mean you could lower the capacity or power 50% and be able to keep up..

But yes I agree the thou would suit him better due to his physical size..

With the two of you rolling down hill, you would be right, but, as soon as you touch the throttle the bike is not 'rolling' any more. F=MA means the Force the engine can produce, divided by the Mass it is pushing gives its resulting Acceleration.  Being half the weight means having twice the acceleration from the same power. Put another way, halve the weight and you can halve the power and still get the same acceleration. But the thing people forget is that acceleration goes both ways, faster as well as slower.

I did a track day years ago in Mondello Park on a ZX-9R. Between one thing an another, on most laps I would fly past an RS-250  on the main straight. It was being ridden by a whippet, and I would be 30 to 50 miles an hour faster then him when I passed, but I had to start hauling on the anchors by the footbridge, and every lap, time after time, he would fly around the corner inside me,  and for the rest of the lap I was playing catchup again.  In racing trim, he had over 70Hp pushing the bikes 130Kg, and the his 50Kg, against my road trim bike with 140Hp pushing 280Kg plus. Yes I could out drag him, but his higher corner speed, and much later braking meant we had  about the same lap times.