Oil Additives

[Farjo]

It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.

Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.

First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.

I'm a GB measurements guy and get confused by metric, however should that be 25ml to 500ml? Otherwise 2.5L (which I presume is 2,500ml) of oil would need 10 bottles of Active8? Or is one bottle 1,250ml?

Assuming; 25ml to 50ml per litre

2500ml = 2.5 litres

Amount of Activ8 = 2.5 * 25 to 50 = 62.5ml to 125ml

Aha! I was reading it as "25ml to 50ml of oil", which makes no sense now I think of it

[darrsi]

It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.

Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.

First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.

I'm a GB measurements guy and get confused by metric, however should that be 25ml to 500ml? Otherwise 2.5L (which I presume is 2,500ml) of oil would need 10 bottles of Active8? Or is one bottle 1,250ml?

Assuming; 25ml to 50ml per litre

2500ml = 2.5 litres

Amount of Activ8 = 2.5 * 25 to 50 = 62.5ml to 125ml

Aha! I was reading it as "25ml to 50ml of oil", which makes no sense now I think of it

Here you go:    http://activ8lubricants.com/used%20in

[Disky]

Well, my bike has been away for months,,,,,, got 12ml of activate and stuck it in the car, a 2010 Fiesta TDCI with 106,000 miles on it (im a driving instructor)  Resent the odo and economy thingy,, and it went from 48 to 53mpg within a few hours,,, and it was being driven on test so no special treatment from me.


Bike next

[darrsi]

Well, my bike has been away for months,,,,,, got 12ml of activate and stuck it in the car, a 2010 Fiesta TDCI with 106,000 miles on it (im a driving instructor)  Resent the odo and economy thingy,, and it went from 48 to 53mpg within a few hours,,, and it was being driven on test so no special treatment from me.


Bike next

Hoorah again.......

[Lawrence]

I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg.  If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?

[darrsi]

I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg.  If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?

It's an after market product, that's how businesses make money!
That's no different to saying why didn't Yamaha put a stainless exhaust, better lights, etc, on the Fazer. Or why are there different types of fuel, unleaded or super, or different prices of oils?
It's a money thing.......

[Lawrence]

I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg.  If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?

It's an after market product, that's how businesses make money!
That's no different to saying why didn't Yamaha put a stainless exhaust, better lights, etc, on the Fazer. Or why are there different types of fuel, unleaded or super, or different prices of oils?
It's a money thing.......

These days in particular mpg/emissions tends to be pretty high on a lot of peoples list when buying a car.  If a manufacturer can increase it by over 10% by adding a couple of quids worth of additive they would.

[darrsi]

I don't believe adding that stuff increased your fuel economy by 5mpg.  If an increase of more than 10% was possible don't you think manufacturers would use/recommend it?

It's an after market product, that's how businesses make money!
That's no different to saying why didn't Yamaha put a stainless exhaust, better lights, etc, on the Fazer. Or why are there different types of fuel, unleaded or super, or different prices of oils?
It's a money thing.......

These days in particular mpg/emissions tends to be pretty high on a lot of peoples list when buying a car.  If a manufacturer can increase it by over 10% by adding a couple of quids worth of additive they would.

Only one way to find out isn't there......

[Lawrence]

In this case it's down to how it's been driven.  48mpg in a diesel fiesta isn't that good.

[darrsi]

Well, my bike has been away for months,,,,,, got 12ml of activate and stuck it in the car, a 2010 Fiesta TDCI with 106,000 miles on it (im a driving instructor)  Resent the odo and economy thingy,, and it went from 48 to 53mpg within a few hours,,, and it was being driven on test so no special treatment from me.


Bike next

I presume you mean 125ml, if it was 12ml than that really was a miracle..... 
125ml is for a bike, i think you're supposed to use double that for a car, but if you feel like it's doing something then happy days!

[darrsi]

In this case it's down to how it's been driven.  48mpg in a diesel fiesta isn't that good.

Wouldn't have a clue, i know sod all about cars, other than that they get in the way......

[Lawrence]

Wouldn't have a clue, i know sod all about cars, other than that they get in the way......

 
I regularly get 50+ out of a mondeo tdci with 144k on the clock.  Hasn't even had an oil change since I've had it, let alone any additives 

[JamesTaylor]

I'm using the Metabond products (Metabond 4T) in my bike. It was developed to reduce friction and save the engine. Also provides more power. Got it from ebay, but I think they have webshop as well

Does anyone use any oil additives in the engine oil ?
Was thinking of using "Activ8" friction reducer


any advice ?

[darrsi]

Oh my.........what have you done 

[His Dudeness]

Oh my.........what have you done 

If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work

[darrsi]

Oh my.........what have you done 

If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work

I'm not being drawn in 

[thunderpantz]

I used ZX1 in mine last year, engine seemed much quieter and 'free' after. Im all for additives.

[His Dudeness]

I used ZX1 in mine last year, engine seemed much quieter and 'free' after. Im all for additives.

Does the engine feel happier like it's had a good back massage?  

[darrsi]

Oh my.........what have you done 

If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work

What if it outlasts everyone else's, it'll be too late then, and you won't know what you've missed? 

[His Dudeness]

Oh my.........what have you done 

If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work

What if it outlasts everyone else's, it'll be too late then, and you won't know what you've missed? 

If in 100 years your engine is mint and mine has slight wear I'll agree it's made a difference   With all this stuff if you think in your head it's running better then in a way it has worked.

[darrsi]

Oh my.........what have you done 

If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work

What if it outlasts everyone else's, it'll be too late then, and you won't know what you've missed? 

If in 100 years your engine is mint and mine has slight wear I'll agree it's made a difference   With all this stuff if you think in your head it's running better then in a way it has worked.

I'll let you know in 2114 

[Fazerider]

For anyone wishing to make an informed decision about oil additives, try typing the name of the product and MSDS into Google. That'll give you the material safety data sheet which tells you what the constituent chemicals are. Searching for information on the constituents is usually much more revealing than the the testimonials and sales patter that a search for the end product gives.

[darrsi]

Oh my.........what have you done 

If your engine ever blows up darrsi we'll know that all of these potions don't work

What if it outlasts everyone else's, it'll be too late then, and you won't know what you've missed? 

If in 100 years your engine is mint and mine has slight wear I'll agree it's made a difference   With all this stuff if you think in your head it's running better then in a way it has worked.

Maybe I should buy another K&N filter now as well, they'll probably be about £1000 in 100 years time. 

[JoeRock]

Thinking of giving this a go in my ZX9R - where's the best place to buy from?

[darrsi]

Thinking of giving this a go in my ZX9R - where's the best place to buy from?

Cheaper on Ebay, but still from the same company.
Don't worry about the description, it's all the same stuff.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Seicento-Tempra-Tipo-Uno-Activ8-oil-additive-/270584279211?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3f001470ab