Oil Additives

[Disky]

They will have a stand at the Scottish Motorcycle Show next weekend at Ingliston Showground

[darrsi]

Slippery buggers get everywhere...... 

[Slaninar]

When you pay more you are paying for expensive additives that fight friction, corrosion, give better adheasion,reduce drag and foaming, the list goes on...

As well as GP racer's multimilion sponsorships, CEO's gigantic bonuses etc. 

imho if you are using decent oil you need not worry about expensive extra additives...
 
Fighting friction is only half the story when it comes to oil.. film thickness and visosity temp range are far more importent to protecting it from going bang!

Couldn't agree more. Good, expensive, oil is good enough for all the bikes and cars I've seen. All the extra aditives have turned out to be snake oil. Good engines will run and run and run on just good oil changed regularly and warmed up before full throttle.

[darrsi]

@Slaninar, you've tried it then? 

[Slaninar]

@Slaninar, you've tried it then? 

I haven't tried it  - regular good quality oil is good enough. But you do have a point. I'd like to see an independent test:
2 engines. One run for 500 hours on regular quality oil, the other run the same period on oil with magic aditives. Then measure and compare wear. Same change periods, same revs etc.

[darrsi]

@Slaninar, you've tried it then? 

I haven't tried it  - regular good quality oil is good enough. But you do have a point. I'd like to see an independent test:
2 engines. One run for 500 hours on regular quality oil, the other run the same period on oil with magic aditives. Then measure and compare wear. Same change periods, same revs etc.

It's all about the feel of things, when i first tried it i seriously noticed smoother gear changing.
I'm not making it up, honest   

[unfazed]

I've been watching this thread with interest for a while.
I have used slick 50 in some cars over 20 years ago, but I cannot see the advantage now with the quality of semi synthetic and fully synthetic oil available. Strangely I never considered using additives in my bikes in all my time of owning them.
However I would believe it is down to personal choice.
Would be interesting if any of the high milers on this forum have used it.
I have not used any additives, just Silkolene 10W40 semi synthetic every 4000 miles and filter every second change and have 74000 and a bit miles up.

[JZS 600]

You know, I wrote about it earlier on another thread but Silkolene semi made the gear change feel a bit smoother than the HG semi that I'm currently using...


Weird.

[Slaninar]

You know, I wrote about it earlier on another thread but Silkolene semi made the gear change feel a bit smoother than the HG semi that I'm currently using...


Weird.

2 guys working with oils (one of them working for Silkolene though) have recommended Silkolene oil as the best option price AND quality wise for the Fazer.  Semi sinth silkolene Comp 4 in 10w40, or 15w50 (summer).

[noggythenog]

This post need a bit more forum to forum friction:-
 
to stoke the fire up a bit more here's a little testimonial about activ8...amen!
 
    After a demonstration at the Nantwich Thundersprint, and having seen the video, I bought a litre of Activ8 and put it in all of my family's vehicles, including a Fiat Cinquecento, A Vauxhall Vectra 1.9CDTI, a Skoda Octavia VRS and a Yamaha TRX850. In each and every case, the motor has been smoother, quieter and more responsive. The Yamaha motorbike had a leap in performance just as if it had been run-in again. I recommended Activ8 to a friend for his late-model air-cooled Porsche 911, and he reports that the oil temperature has dropped significantly as a result. I have a small aircraft (an ARV Super2) with a twin-rotor MidWest Wankel engine, and I propose to put Activ8 in that engine as well, because rotary engines run very hot and it will be reassuring to know that an in-flight engine failure will be much less likely. I'm really impressed with Activ8 - it's amazing stuff!   Name:   Mr Lyons  Area:   Newcastle-under-Lyme  Make:   Yamaha  Model:   TRX850  Year:   1997

[darrsi]

A Silkolene worker recommending Silkolene..........shocking 

[noggythenog]

Attention-my car & activ8 are now as one!!!!!


Off for a friction free 60 mile round trip...




What will the future hold   or

[His Dudeness]

Attention-my car & activ8 are now as one!!!!!


Off for a friction free 60 mile round trip...




What will the future hold   or 

As long as you don't hit 88mph and you'll be fine

[noggythenog]

Attention-my car & activ8 are now as one!!!!!


Off for a friction free 60 mile round trip...




What will the future hold   or 

As long as you don't hit 88mph and you'll be fine

Hit 100 in 4th gear, small coal,perhaps....but it is a 1.2 diesel estate


I kid you not all,barely had time to circulate & the engine feels better already,smoother & more powerful.


I didnt have chance to check the mpg as i was busy enjoying the new lease of life but it wasnt my usual journey anyway,shall test it out going to work on tuesday at usual speeds & tempo.


Im sold though.

[darrsi]

Hoorah......

[Dead Eye]

I'm slowly coming round to the idea if this. It's not so much that I doubted their claims as whether I was prepared to fork out the money to verify them :P

A quick query; how much do you use? Had a quick look on the website and a flick through this thread but couldn't find anything (but I am blind to the obvious sometimes...). Reason I ask is that I would do both the car and bike.

I noted that the 125ml was for cars up to 1800cc and bikes up to 800cc but was curious as to exactly how far it gets you.

[darrsi]

It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.


Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.


First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.

[noggythenog]

Been out in the car to the shops n cuttin about town,totally lost it's trademark rattle


Now purring

[Dead Eye]

It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.


Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.


First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.

Awesome thanks Damn 6-7 litre car sump

Activ8 is going to wait since I'm going to need half a litre of the stuff by the seems of things...

[Farjo]

It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.

Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.

First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.

I'm a GB measurements guy and get confused by metric, however should that be 25ml to 500ml? Otherwise 2.5L (which I presume is 2,500ml) of oil would need 10 bottles of Active8? Or is one bottle 1,250ml?

[Dead Eye]

It says 25ml to 50ml per litre of oil.

Bike's got a 2.5 litre sump.

First time just stick the whole 125ml bottle in your bike. Then what i did was put half a bottle in after 4 oil changes, although they say 5.

I'm a GB measurements guy and get confused by metric, however should that be 25ml to 500ml? Otherwise 2.5L (which I presume is 2,500ml) of oil would need 10 bottles of Active8? Or is one bottle 1,250ml?

Assuming; 25ml to 50ml per litre

2500ml = 2.5 litres

Amount of Activ8 = 2.5 * 25 to 50 = 62.5ml to 125ml

[darrsi]

1 x Fazer = 1 x 125ml bottle 

[Edsboy]

Most engine wear is caused when the engine is started from cold and before the oil reaches its optimum viscosity. Once the engine and oil are up to temp wear is reduced, if the additive is able to adhere to the surfaces as in the case of PTFE to protect cold starting damage it will make it quieter when cold . As to weather it is an advantage in a warm engine running on quality oil is questionable . Having been in the motor trade for some 30 years, and have used most of the additives at some time with no ill effects only quieter and smoother cold running ,if you dont try it you will never know ..........

[darrsi]

No PTFE in Activ8, Google Activ8 oil, all is explained 

[Dead Eye]

I think he was using PTFE as an example, not suggesting that Activ8 contained it