Author Topic: Curiosity of national proportions (Read 11637 times)

DryRob · « **on:** 17 March 2012, 01:34:53 pm »

I've been having an interesting discussion with someone on facebook regarding St. Patrick's day and it got me thinking about nationality. As there is a large geographic spread on here I was wondering what people from each of the respective nations think,

If you are born in England/Scotland/Wales are you English/Scottish/Welsh or British?

This thread isn't intended to be a platform for the type of racism it could easily degenerate into, I was just wondering how the home nations view their relationship with British nationality.
I personally see myself as English before British but in the same respect I see myself a Yorkshireman before an Englishman.

eiderrider · « **Reply #1 on:** 17 March 2012, 02:08:45 pm »

Although I now live in England, I would consider myself a Cornishman, The cornish language is being revived and they are now celebrating St Pirans day but this revival has come about in the last 10/15 years. There are very few proper cornish people in the county now as most are outbred with englanders (myself included) and a lot of scots.
in this modern world is nationalism still important ?

goldfazer · « **Reply #2 on:** 17 March 2012, 02:19:12 pm »

I'm Britsh/Uk, then English if they want more detail!

flesh · « **Reply #3 on:** 17 March 2012, 04:02:36 pm »

I'm a Geordie and the UK should be renamed Geordieland IMO

I have lived in Scotland for past 25 years and, although born and raised in the North East, I consider myself Scottish. The British identity does not even come into the equation for me.

Farjo · « **Reply #4 on:** 17 March 2012, 04:26:00 pm »

I consider myself from London and therefore a citizen of the world, but "Englishness" and "Britishness" - I cannot identify with them.

Ton13 · « **Reply #5 on:** 17 March 2012, 04:40:11 pm »

Im a yam yam,
i usually just say British as I have a very P.C. job and cant be seen as discriminitive in any way...

but then with Irish and English blood in me then the fact that i spend 50% of my time in Wales and my great great grandparents being from Scotland......

Im proud to be English for the History of it but with the mix up i have.... i cant be anything but a Yamma!

(black country

)

Hodge · « **Reply #6 on:** 17 March 2012, 04:46:38 pm »

English but have Irish, Welsh and scandinavian through the ages so really a mix. However I am and always will be English but far too often I have to declare myself British for the pc brigade.

pilgrim · « **Reply #7 on:** 17 March 2012, 04:58:04 pm »

Lancastrian

PC brigade can pucker up and kiss my pasty English arse

( with a little bit of Irish in the mix)

Phil
Bolton
LANCASHIRE.

goldfazer · « **Reply #8 on:** 17 March 2012, 05:05:17 pm »

'I consider myself from London and therefore a citizen of the world, '

Typical Laaandaner - thinks it's the whole of the UK

dx408 · « **Reply #9 on:** 17 March 2012, 05:20:57 pm »

Born and bread Welsh and always will be Welsh if asked I am Welsh and from the UK. On official forms when it gives you the option of nationality with no Welsh option I use "other" and write Welsh in the box.

Too much is made of "British" it is used by the PC brigade and the media for their own reasons and when it suits them. One glaring obvious one was the curling team from Scotland in the Olympics they were called the Scottish team until it looked like they had a chance of winning then it turns into the British team.

BTW another grand slam for the Welsh rugby squad well done boys

steeeve66 · « **Reply #10 on:** 17 March 2012, 05:27:17 pm »

I always say UK or English - British and Great Britain always sounded a little too colonial to me. Having said that I'd be sorry to see Scotland leave the union, not sure why tho...

tomjimtom · « **Reply #11 on:** 17 March 2012, 05:52:35 pm »

Quote from: dx408 on 17 March 2012, 05:20:57 pm

BTW another grand slam for the Welsh rugby squad well done boys

eerrr you mean the British rugby team?

BIG MAC · « **Reply #12 on:** 17 March 2012, 08:25:52 pm »

Another astonishing performance for the Scots and I think we have nearly enough wooden spoons to start rebuilding the wall out of them

Sunny Intervals · « **Reply #13 on:** 17 March 2012, 08:46:13 pm »

Southern English from, the Great Kingdom of Wessex.

I've found that your nationality is something that others place on you more times than not.

I've been called an English B@rest@rd more times than I care to remember

The English are the most mongrelised people in Europe, and Nationality is a matter of birth, or choice by applying for a passport and right of residency in another country.

If we've all going to dig back in our Ancestry until we find a country we would like to be from.
I got and Aunty Eve that lived in Africa a long time ago, she had a facial hair problem and walked with a stoop.

I most definitely ain't from London

1967fazer · « **Reply #14 on:** 17 March 2012, 10:16:50 pm »

Yorkshireman! (with alittle bit of Lancs and Spain in there as well, but I try to keep the Lancs bit quiet!)

Grahamm · « **Reply #15 on:** 17 March 2012, 10:30:12 pm »

Quote from: DryRob on 17 March 2012, 01:34:53 pm

If you are born in England/Scotland/Wales are you English/Scottish/Welsh or British?

British by birth, English by the Grace of God

BIG MAC · « **Reply #16 on:** 17 March 2012, 11:30:19 pm »

You have a cruel God then

rustyrider · « **Reply #17 on:** 18 March 2012, 08:53:55 am »

This was one of the questions in the census last year, what do you consider yourself to be, English, British, Welsh, Scottish, etc. I suspect the Welsh and Scottish would consider themselves as Welsh and Scottish but it won't be as simple for the Engilsh. I refer to myself as English but if I am asked my nationality, I'll say British as I hold a British passport.

purplebear7 · « **Reply #18 on:** 18 March 2012, 09:11:01 am »

I'm from Birmingham

and very proud of it.

However .. I've never really been quite sure what nationality that is .. but at least it's North of Watford

Oh Well.

Polar Bear (Spain)

Ben Diesel · « **Reply #19 on:** 18 March 2012, 10:04:00 am »

I'm English - and proud of it. I was born in England of an English father and a Scottish mother.

So hang on, perhaps I'm half English, half Scottish.

My English father's parents were both English; but my Scottish mother's parents were both Irish.

So perhaps I'm half English, half Irish.

My wife is English.

She was born in England of Scottish parents.

So perhaps she's Scottish.

Our children are English. They were born in England of English parents; but their Grandparents were one English, three Scottish.

So perhaps they're quarter English, three quarters Scottish.

But their great-grandparents were four Scottish, two English and two Irish.

So perhaps my children are half Scottish, quarter English, quarter Irish.

My father was schooled in Wales at a Welsh language school from the age of 5 to 14; but we have no Welsh blood in the family.

I've changed my mind. I'm British - and proud of it.

Chillum · « **Reply #20 on:** 18 March 2012, 03:03:30 pm »

English all the way.

I don't agree with the idea that being pro-something (i.e my nationality) is in any way racist or bigoted towards anyone else, them's weasel words from Politicians and think tank manipulators of the New World Order.

Although I do have some issues with my missus constantly calling me a Northerner when I've never even lived there (both my parents were from Hull)

JZS 600 · « **Reply #21 on:** 18 March 2012, 05:02:41 pm »

I was born in Northern Ireland, my father was born in Glasgow, I'm living in Kent...

Makes it great when the rugby's on! Lots of choices.

dx408 · « **Reply #22 on:** 18 March 2012, 05:24:04 pm »

Quote from: BIG MAC on 17 March 2012, 08:25:52 pm

Another astonishing performance for the Scots and I think we have nearly enough wooden spoons to start rebuilding the wall out of them

alan sherman · « **Reply #23 on:** 19 March 2012, 09:51:26 am »

How many people actually know the difference between Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, the United Kingdom and England.

For example the internationally recognised country our passports are from is the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland". But the nationality printed inside is "British" (unless you have chosen your sub-tribe). It is a complex mix of history and vested interests that is interesting, but the hatred that some people foist upon their fairly arbitrary tagging seems a it extreme!

For my part I'm English and a citizen of the UK. I'm in the habit of saying I am British when asked, but don't get worried when foreigners think that English is the normal term for people from the UK. I'm against devolution - primarily because it just seems to be an excise in getting more civil servants jobs. I do think the mess of the English not having a parliament whilst every other country in the UK does need sorting out. I like the idea that Wales is keeping the language alive but don't think it should be revived above the common language (not just of our country but the world). Cornwall spending money on dual language roadsigns seems a bit pretentious to me, especially for one of the poorest counties in the country. Couldn't the money be spent on better things?

bigralphie · « **Reply #24 on:** 19 March 2012, 11:28:46 am »

British and a Lancastrian
I joined the military at 17 so all my mates hailed from all over the UK so always felt part of a greater union