Date: 29-10-25  Time: 15:53 pm

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« Reply #25 on: 08 November 2015, 08:46:42 am »
Ill get on it :D


its only 35w and a pretty crappy reflector but its got a decent beam on it :D i did however order a new 55w ballast so i can put it on my bike and switch it out with mine.


its also shown me that my bike battery has to be enough to run a hid, the battery thats in it is a 12v 7ah




one of these





Not dark enough yet but


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« Reply #26 on: 08 November 2015, 01:21:27 pm »
ok here is the before shots of the very shite-ish lights on my fazer

dipped beam


and the not so mighty full beam



taking off the metal reflector hasnt really helped things, but it hasnt made it a whole lot worse either.

:D  ill let you guys know how the projector lamps go when the turn up.
i also bought a pair of led projectors to fit somewhere, 10watt each, so will be interesting how good they are for the minimal cost as well

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« Reply #27 on: 08 November 2015, 01:31:50 pm »
ok here is the before shots of the very shite-ish lights on my fazer
There nearly as good as Paul's HID'S :pokefun

Seriously though.....
Have you adjusted the beam direction? Yours seem to be a bit low.

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« Reply #28 on: 08 November 2015, 01:50:49 pm »
ok here is the before shots of the very shite-ish lights on my fazer
There nearly as good as Paul's HID'S :pokefun



This is so true! i cant seriously keep getting bad batches of bulbs and ballasts!
new bulbs and ballast last week just as bad

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« Reply #29 on: 08 November 2015, 02:03:12 pm »
ok here is the before shots of the very shite-ish lights on my fazer
There nearly as good as Paul's HID'S :pokefun



This is so true! i cant seriously keep getting bad batches of bulbs and ballasts!
new bulbs and ballast last week just as bad
I don't what your doing :pokefun

Could possibly be your regulator/rectifier isn't up to it?

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« Reply #30 on: 09 November 2015, 07:45:13 am »
Even straight from the battery its weak, i will have to remove the battery and wire the 22ah one and see what happens

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« Reply #31 on: 09 November 2015, 10:46:21 am »
I had the same problem with my 96 TDM850.

HIDS4U supplied a complete kit for the dip beam which was a 20 minute job to fit and made a huge difference.

I did not fit a HID kit to the main beam as there is a slight delay in getting full power from the lamps, instead went for a night breaker bulb which made a bit of difference but lasted 20 miles!

Hope this helps

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« Reply #32 on: 23 November 2015, 12:18:34 am »
well the lights turned up over the weekend.

bit of a mission to get all installed and hide all the wiring,   2 sets of ballasts, 2 relay boxes, 2 hi/low beam cables, 2 "angel eye" voltage boxes
etc etc, plus wiring to run back to the battery.
not hard but time consuming.

pretty damn good results though


angle eyes..... (aka park/pilot light)


dipped beam


full beam


i think my low beam is a bit high, but we'll see how many times i get flashed in the next few days
light is a bit white and it takes a minute or so to fully warm up but its
like night and day though, amazing that 35watts can throw out so much light

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« Reply #33 on: 23 November 2015, 05:56:33 am »
Looks good :)
Where did you get that setup from?

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« Reply #35 on: 24 November 2015, 10:40:47 am »
I bought it off aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2ABC-Universal-Motorbike-35w-2-inch-Hid-Bi-xenon-Projector-Lens-Kit-wiht-Slim-Ballast-Blue/865239432.html

All in including DHL postage was under £60


That link is just for one?
How did you fit them? Did you have to split the headlight unit etc?

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« Reply #36 on: 24 November 2015, 09:49:28 pm »
Not sure if anyone has mentioned these they were installed on my bike when I brought it 3 months ago, I've always been seriously impressed with them (not the cheapest option).

https://www.retrofitlab.com/yamaha-fzs600-mh1-1.html

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« Reply #37 on: 25 November 2015, 10:03:53 am »
How do the projectors go mounting? Looks like some of them use a h4 shaped back end to just hold the projector. Does it work ok? Seems like it's be a bit wobbly to me.

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« Reply #38 on: 25 November 2015, 10:09:16 am »
I bought it off aliexpress http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2ABC-Universal-Motorbike-35w-2-inch-Hid-Bi-xenon-Projector-Lens-Kit-wiht-Slim-Ballast-Blue/865239432.html

All in including DHL postage was under £60


How did you fit them? Did you have to split the headlight unit etc?



I also want to know this!


but they do look like this soo... this looks good to me!
However the h1 hole is a lot smaller than the h4? maybe op can comment

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« Reply #39 on: 25 November 2015, 11:54:00 am »
Yeah the link is just for one set. So if you do both sides you'll need to buy 2 sets.  I followed instructions herehttp://fotifixes.com/2012/12/27/hid-projector-installation-in-a-2001-fazer-600/
Yeah you have to split the lights.
5 mins I'm the oven at 90'C softened everything up nicely. Same to put it back together

Carved out the h1 hole to fit the h4 projector.

We'll worth the effort. You could just to 1 projector if you didn't want to wreck your light.
But In my eyes it was no great loss.

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« Reply #40 on: 25 November 2015, 02:30:03 pm »
Yeah the link is just for one set. So if you do both sides you'll need to buy 2 sets.  I followed instructions herehttp://fotifixes.com/2012/12/27/hid-projector-installation-in-a-2001-fazer-600/
Yeah you have to split the lights.
5 mins I'm the oven at 90'C softened everything up nicely. Same to put it back together

Carved out the h1 hole to fit the h4 projector.

We'll worth the effort. You could just to 1 projector if you didn't want to wreck your light.
But In my eyes it was no great loss.





Ahh so theyre just push through and screw a big nut on it.


i wonder how this would sit with an mot though as you cant put a h1 bulb back in

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« Reply #41 on: 25 November 2015, 07:00:35 pm »

Ahh so theyre just push through and screw a big nut on it.

Basically yes!
i wonder how this would sit with an mot though as you cant put a h1 bulb back in


You might find your answer here Paul, it'd be too much for me to try and explain my readings of it so thought you could read it and get your own thoughts?

http://www.ukmot.com/bike-1-2.asp#Text_top

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« Reply #42 on: 25 November 2015, 07:37:11 pm »
as far as im aware its the pattern and where the beam shines that may be a problem.

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« Reply #43 on: 25 November 2015, 07:43:34 pm »
should be a pass then,  the dipped beam is a nice solid line when against a wall,
it might flair a little wide, but i doubt it would fail,  if the retro lab lights pass mot, (which i know they do) then these will as well

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ii) deflect the main beam/s to make them dipped beam/s.
 
 c. either beam as selected is affected by the operation of another lamp or the horn, or which flickers when tapped lightly by hand


as long as they point in the right direction, have some way of dipping the headlight
and as long as the light is white or yellow and doesnt flicker when tapped, then they can't fail you.


it used to be different years ago, and there was all sorts of nonsense about self leveling and what not.
not really applicable to bikes so i guess they pulled it out.

if you were worried about it you could just do a single hid h1 bulb, and a h4 bi-xenon projector
i think that would give out ample light,   and be totally reversible.



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« Reply #44 on: 25 November 2015, 07:48:21 pm »
as far as im aware its the pattern and where the beam shines that may be a problem.
Thats true but if it shines within the scope it should pass and as projectors are directional and you'd still have the use of the adjustment screws at the back to move them to a suitable position.

My car has projectors for dipped beam with  HID's in them and never had a problem with MOT's and i've had the car about 5 yrs.

The fitting of them is the key to get them sitting correctly to start with I'd imagine as if you get that too wrong, even the adjustment at the back might not sort it.

if you were worried about it you could just do a single hid h1 bulb, and a h4 bi-xenon projector
i think that would give out ample light,   and be totally reversible.
I'd be much happier doing dual lights as I think the single light on the Fazer gives the wrong impression to other road users i.e. "one of your bulbs are out"

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« Reply #45 on: 25 November 2015, 11:21:34 pm »
Going to be "cheap" and order a set from ebay as ive bought 10000 kits and have enough ballasts and bulbs to fit headlights tail lights and helmet lights.


£23 for 2 projectors

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« Reply #46 on: 25 November 2015, 11:36:31 pm »
why so many kits?? 
but yeah all you need is the projectors if you have the ballasts and bulbs any way :D

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I'd be much happier doing dual lights as I think the single light on the Fazer gives the wrong impression to other road users i.e. "one of your bulbs are out"

id hook up the h1 bulb to the dipped beam circuit so it was always on, and have both dip and full beam on the h4 projector,  that way both lights are always on,  but everything is fully reversable.

if that interested you :D 

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« Reply #47 on: 26 November 2015, 06:33:09 pm »
I had next to no light from any hid kit i tried.... now confirmed my reflector is scrap.

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« Reply #48 on: 26 November 2015, 10:58:17 pm »
the fazer reflectors are literally the worst ive ever come across in the 20 odd years of riding and the 50 or 60ish bikes ive owned,
even the 6volt lighting circuit in my little 2 stroke has a better headlight.

first time ive ever use projectors, and im quite happy with the results,
keep us posted with developments on yours

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« Reply #49 on: 26 November 2015, 11:15:51 pm »
Think you boys have missed a trick. Have a look below and skip to 3:40 after the intro  :lol