Author Topic: Urgent help needed (Read 8162 times)

hightower · « **on:** 08 April 2014, 01:03:51 pm »

Please help. This is my cam on rebuild, the crank is tdc, the markings are a little clockwise of where they were before.

Is this OK?this little difference doesn't seem like a tooth's worth. If I rotate the cams 1 tooth anticlockwise the markings then line up after so no closer.

Can I accept these timings or will me engine go pop?

Here's before pic for more info

Skippernick · « **Reply #1 on:** 08 April 2014, 01:23:17 pm »

Top pic is the inlet cam and the bottom pic is the exhaust cam, assuming you have taken the pics from the same side, not sure if it makes a difference comparing them.

Fazerider · « **Reply #2 on:** 08 April 2014, 01:50:53 pm »

Is the camchain tensioned?

hightower · « **Reply #3 on:** 08 April 2014, 02:20:07 pm »

I was a tooth out....

Took it all off again to sort but now lost a dowel from the cam holders. Can't find it.... Feel like crying

His Dudeness · « **Reply #4 on:** 08 April 2014, 02:26:00 pm »

Hope it's not in the engine!

noggythenog · « **Reply #5 on:** 08 April 2014, 02:29:06 pm »

Hightower

Not being cheeky

But i can see where this could end up

Would you like me to put dibs on my engine

I'll do you a good price

Just sayin

Good luck

hightower · « **Reply #6 on:** 08 April 2014, 02:31:45 pm »

Can't find it anywhere. I dropped it towards rear of bike so if in engine it's a good shot. Fed up now, thinking of leaving it for today as just getting agitated

richfzs · « **Reply #7 on:** 08 April 2014, 02:38:25 pm »

Walking away is a good idea at this point - I got frustrated a couple of weeks ago, and launched my 5mm thandle Allen key across the garage - no idea where it went, quite annoying not having it!!

hightower · « **Reply #8 on:** 08 April 2014, 02:43:04 pm »

Yeah I'm done. Quick question. Would one of the cam holders not having a dowel be the end of the world. The dowels just to help seat it right, so if it has 2 still and all it's screws will that be a problem.

Looked everywhere i can on bike - nowhere to be seen

hightower · « **Reply #9 on:** 08 April 2014, 03:02:50 pm »

And if not where can I order one from

headgonekneedown · « **Reply #10 on:** 08 April 2014, 03:43:11 pm »

Its there for a reason!

richfzs · « **Reply #11 on:** 08 April 2014, 03:49:26 pm »

Are you sure it stayed on the bike?

richfzs · « **Reply #12 on:** 08 April 2014, 03:51:19 pm »

Oops, posted early... It didn't go to the ground? Try putting a good torch right down at floor level, shining across the floor - it's the best way to find small components, it highlights the shadows created... And yeah, it'll be there for a reason...

hightower · « **Reply #13 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:00:49 pm »

Darn it, I think I need to order one then. I spent about 2 hours searching today in the garage. Any ideas where?

His Dudeness · « **Reply #14 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:20:30 pm »

Are you 100% certain it's missing? They can get stuck in the cam cap when you take the cap out or they can get stuck in the head.

hightower · « **Reply #15 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:30:38 pm »

Yeah, I felt and heard it drop (I dropped another and also a bolt at the same time). I found them, but this could be anywhere as I didn't see it fall. I've counted my dowels about 20 times today, it's definitely missing. Gonna go give it another search in a bit.... Not very hopeful.

hightower · « **Reply #16 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:45:52 pm »

Just ordered a couple from aj sutton, just gotta wait it out now

Better safe than sorry. Will have one last look in garage tonight too.

Deefer666 · « **Reply #17 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:48:58 pm »

Quote from: hightower on 08 April 2014, 05:30:38 pm

Yeah, I felt and heard it drop (I dropped another and also a bolt at the same time). I found them, but this could be anywhere as I didn't see it fall. I've counted my dowels about 20 times today, it's definitely missing. Gonna go give it another search in a bit.... Not very hopeful.

If the cams are in then it could not have gone far, just check under the cams, then rotate the engine by hand from the crank. If it went down a plug hole it'll lock the engine. I did an XJR for a customer where a dowel dropped down the bores as I was fitting the cams.... Soul Destroying, I feel ya pain

hightower · « **Reply #18 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:50:17 pm »

2 weeks to get the part as not held in stock

Deefer666 · « **Reply #19 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:52:09 pm »

Quote from: hightower on 08 April 2014, 05:50:17 pm

2 weeks to get the part as not held in stock

PM my your address and I'll stick one in the post

hightower · « **Reply #20 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:52:33 pm »

You got one spare?

Deefer666 · « **Reply #21 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:55:13 pm »

I have lots of engines kicking around that have all been robbed of their selector forks and mechanisms to fix customers fazers. I think I'll be able to spare one!

ogri48 · « **Reply #22 on:** 08 April 2014, 05:59:25 pm »

nicely done deefer

savvy · « **Reply #23 on:** 08 April 2014, 06:52:17 pm »

What a guy

red98 · « **Reply #24 on:** 08 April 2014, 07:23:02 pm »

Were the plugs in or out when you lost the dowel ? If in it may have gone down the cam chain tunnel, shine a torch down there might see it.......taking the sump off is easy, might have fallen to the bottom.......if plugs out , if it were me I would take the head off again to make sure, you hav'nt started it so gasket should be ok........done a simular thing with a valve shim....fell in slow-mo down the plug hole, only way to get it out was to take the head off.......good luck.hope you find the bugger on the garage floor somewhere