I'll be  watching the  X factor  auditions  this year for the fuckin idiot song

It's a right hand turn fuckin idiot
It's a right hand turn you're a fuckin idiot
just jumped a red light fuckin idiot

You wrote the song, you perform it.

You'll fit right in.

I haven't watched X Factor since the first series when I worked out after the first show it is for children and morons .

Enjoy the next series buddy. 

Well you watched it...!

I don't mind personalised plates if they are good ones - I have to admit that two vehicles in this house have them, both gifts though.

I just can't stand the shite ones where they have to make a number look like a letter by changing it or spacing it illegally, or they change a letter by deliberately printing it wrong, both illegal and an MOT failure.

Some garages do get funny though, my missus' plate is her first name, spelt correctly with no altered letters or numbers and it passes the ANPR test with Plod and on it's 3rd MOT we took it to a different main dealer as it was closer to where we moved and the MOT tester got all funny as there's no double space in the middle.

Never had a problem before and we never took it there again, their loss.

I'm not sure about that site, it says 2 of my vehicles were registered in odd places when I bought them both new.

I tend to use this site to check basic details: https://ownvehicle.askmid.com/

These morons get Youtubed today because I've got a bastard toothache.

https://youtu.be/-zM4q9XXJM8

Wrong.

No laws in the UK for domestic cctv.

Isn't that point of the discussion though that you had one person driving irresponsibly (I doubt anyone would argue that the van driver is not in the wrong here - even if they do it themselves) but that you now have two people distracting themselves.  I am sure that, if asked, the van driver would defend himself like you are doing, saying he was only recharging his spoon when he knew there was nothing close to him or whatever.  People are never personally in the wrong, ever, fact


What would you say, for example, if I posted a video on here where I am riding along in traffic ogling women at bus stops as I pass, taking time to point the camera at various endowments as I do so?  Silly thing to do really, distracting myself, not concentrating on riding, not fully focused on traffic etc.  Just because people are videoing others who are in the wrong doesn't give them carte blanche in order to do so.  That is my main issue with it really...

If you posted videos of totty then I'd be happy and sad. Happy because its totty but sad because you are distracting yourself from the road.

I wasn't distracted, my eyes were looking forward, the camera is not pointing in the same direction that I'm looking, my eyes can turn to the side!

Go Pro Silver 3+ and it's stuck on the top of my lid - makes you look like a plonker but it gets the best view although I have noticed that it is a different view from my eye line which explains why some viewers think I'm closer than I am.

Plus on the looking sideways thing, my head and therefore the camera might be facing sideways, but my eyeballs came with a swivel setting when I got them, so it is possible to move my head to the side and look straight ahead.

I think everyone has this ability.

Where do you stop though?  I am sure everybody here does things they shouldn't, looking at something else, opening some food packet, changing radio station, getting their lipstick from the glovebox etc  One min you could be opening a Turkish Delight in the car, the next your opening a £1000 fine letter because someone caught you on camera.  Let people get on with it?

I think the lines are clear, you report the actions that are dangerous and ignore those that are not unless they break the traffic laws.

Is putting on lipstick when driving dangerous? Hell yeah! You have to look in the mirror to do that.

Is putting on lipstick dangerous while sitting in a traffic queue and not moving? No and I wouldn't report it.

The difference between putting on lipstick and a mobile phone user is that the law is clear: you must not use a mobile hand held device whilst you are in charge of a vehicle on the road.

So in answer to Midden on the thread about the driver eating breakfast at the wheel:


Midden wrote:

Looked more like salad to me.  Are you related to cycle Gaz?

Just a couple of thoughts just for fun

1. How do you know he has to take his eyes off the road each time he puts spoon in the bowl looked to me as though his head was up and facing forward.  I don't find a need to look down at the bowl when I eat

2. How many seconds where your eyes off the road to try and get this man sacked.  Perhaps your numberplate should be splattered on facebook



My response:

No I'm not related to Cycle Gaz, although I have seen his Youtube channel and he seems to be a particularly sensitive cyclist who posts video of drivers he thinks are doing something wrong, when on the whole they just seem to be on the road the same time as him. IMO he is a twat.

Whether you think the Kelly Comms driver can eat from a bowl with a spoon whilst driving and keep his eyes on the road or not, it is illegal and dangerous.

Had he been seen by Police he would without a doubt have been nicked.

Who said I'm trying to get this man sacked? I'm not saying his work is at question, just his driving. I don't want him sacked, I want him to drive with care and consideration for others.

However if he did get sacked would I feel bad? I'm not sure, but I do know this:

I'd feel bad if he plowed into my partner on her scooter and killed her because he was eating and distracted

I'd feel bad if he plowed into my step daughter's car and killed my grandchild who at a few weeks old would be easily hurt even in her safety seat because he was eating and distracted.

I'd feel bad if smashed into my stepson as he crossed the road at a crossing and crippled him so he couldn't finish his Uni degree and spent the rest of his life in a wheelchair because he was eating and distracted.

Ask yourself if the driver felt bad for eating at the wheel and putting all the road users around him at risk, no he didn't, he felt hungry and couldn't give a toss about anyone else.

If he does get sacked because of this then it is his own fault, not mine.

This thread  is for those who want to discuss the good and bad points of personal cameras on the road and if they are a good, bad, necessary or irrelevant.

Personal cameras on the road seem to have a huge divide in how people perceive them, not many issues cause such a difference in opinion so a discussion should prove interesting.

Pretty much you should be able to say what you like on this thread, I’d like to keep the insults constructive where possible, but leave your ego and sensitivity at the door.

Some of the discussion points are below, I’m sure there are more and the discussion should evolve naturally unless it degrades into a slanging match!

So what do you think of personal cameras and those who choose to use them?

What do you think about posting recordings of other road users (for any reason) on social media for all to see?

What do you think about using the recordings to report other road users to the authorities?

What do you think about using the recordings to show fault in accidents?

One day all vehicles and possibly motorcycle helmets will come with personal cameras installed, there are some on the market now.

It may even be made law for you to wear a personal camera on the road, how about that?


OK that's just for starters, feel free to add more points or just discuss personal cameras but please keep it on topic as much as possible.

I couldn't believe this so I had to move over and take a second look to make sure I wasn't seeing things:

https://youtu.be/K-KoF_DyHu4

Actually saw a guy trapping a pokemon behind the wheel on his phone today while filtering.  I already had it like so put my phone away....

How do you get Pikachu on a train?

Poke him on

Coat, door.