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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carbs
« on: 25 February 2023, 03:52:14 pm »
Turn out more fuel  (Anticlockwise).
Turn in less fuel (Clockwise)
Was there not an option to increased the air jet to cater for the increase in pilot jet size.
Are all the O rings intact and the needle set to the correct height.
Hi unfazed,
I will set the screws to 2 turns to see if it makes it better, I don't want to fit pod filters.


Why 2 turns, when your bike is 2.5 turns?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Carbs
« on: 20 February 2023, 07:23:17 pm »

I know this is an old post, does anyone know which way to adjust the pilot screws to lean out the tick over.
The reason I'm asking is I have fitted a jet kit with bigger pilot jets and it stinks on tick over, smells like to much fuel.


Safest way would be to do as mentioned above, screw them in all the way clockwise, then 2.5 turns out anticlockwise. At least you'll know that they're equal then.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stop the bike dying in winter
« on: 20 February 2023, 05:44:28 am »
Fuel goes off very quickly these days,if you leave your bike with petrol in the system for more than a few weeks you're going to get trouble with any bike.


Sorry, but that's simply not true.


We'll have to disagree on that mate,from personal experience and from hanging around my mate's Bike shop/workshop for years I'm seeing more and fuel-related problems with customer's bikes, usually around this time of year when many are using them for the first time since last September or so,mostly older carb'd bikes.


https://monomotorcycles.co.uk/how-can-modern-fuels-damage-motorcycle-engines-how-to-prevent-this/

Most relevant part is this:

Here is a shocking fact. Modern ethanol fuel starts to go off the moment it goes into your fuel tank. A sealed petrol can kept in a cool dark place can last 6 months before it starts to degrade, however in your vented motorcycle fuel tank, it can be as little as six weeks before you could start to see issues.


Everyone on here has a carbed bike, and there are probably more rather than less that don't use them all through winter, but the forum doesn't get swamped with non starters due to bad fuel every year. If it did i would've noticed and know a lot about the subject as i've been on here a long time now, but it's never really been an issue. My own bike sat around doing nothing in very warm temperatures during the first year of covid when i was furloughed and the bike had no fuel issues whatsoever when i went back to work. Although to be truthful back then i would only use 97 RON fuel, and now bounce between 97 Super and ESSO 99 which has zero Ethanol in it (it's marked as "Up To 5%" on the pump for legal reasons). 

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stop the bike dying in winter
« on: 19 February 2023, 10:09:55 pm »
So I have had my fzs600 for 4 years now and after very winter when it doesn’t get ridden much, it won’t start it’s basically always the carbs so I taken them out give them a spray and it starts.

How do you stop this happening ? Feel like riding to work tomorrow and I can’t because the fucker won’t start again.

In all fairness I’m tempted to get rid as it has been one problem after another for the past 4 years and now I don’t really trust it, which is sad


Plenty of choke, but the main trick in really cold weather when the bike's been sitting about is hold the clutch lever in when starting it. Makes a big difference.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Stop the bike dying in winter
« on: 19 February 2023, 10:06:16 pm »
Fuel goes off very quickly these days,if you leave your bike with petrol in the system for more than a few weeks you're going to get trouble with any bike.


Sorry, but that's simply not true.

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Mine had a bit of a problem where it started misfiring badly like it was losing a couple of cylinders. After sitting a few minutes it would be OK, then the problem would start again.
I ended up taking the tank off and draining it, drained all the carbs, took off the filter and cleaned out with brake cleaner, cleaned all the plugs and refitted everything along with new petrol. Problem sorted.
Guessing it was water in the carbs from the odd time I've used this crappy E10 stuff.


99% Isopropyl Alcohol can be used if you suspect water in the tank. It works differently than Ethanol and will bind with water then get burnt off as fuel. Use no more than 1% per full tank of fuel, so 200ml for a 20 litre tank.


I've been using it for years during winter as my bike suffers from carb icing and nowadays I only add 100ml per tank during prolonged colder weather and it makes a difference immediately once the bike starts misbehaving, like it did a few weeks ago.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Running low and high beam together. --Foxy--
« on: 13 February 2023, 08:22:35 am »
Wouldn't be kind on your battery, and wouldn't pass an MOT either.

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General / Re: Side panniers
« on: 12 February 2023, 06:51:05 pm »
So looking at your first photo I can see the long arm for the Givi rack, then the pannier bracket going over it, which is promising.

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General / Side panniers
« on: 12 February 2023, 03:20:59 pm »
Dunno if anyone can advise me on this?
I've been looking at side panniers for my bike, but already have the Givi top box plate fitted with the long side arms.


My question is, if I was to buy side panniers would there be a clash with the current bracketry?


I don't want to order them to then find out I have to remove my top box to make them fit. Especially as the ones I want will probably come from Germany.


Anyone have any tips or advice please?




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General / Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome
« on: 11 February 2023, 09:42:22 pm »
Little piece of advice from experience, when you feel it's the right time to get back on the bike, cover your wound the best you can before putting your gloves on.
Reason being, your gloves can reinfect it quite easily.
Been there, done that.  :'(

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: About 5000 rpms 1st gear, engine cut out.
« on: 04 February 2023, 08:12:32 pm »
Had trouble recently with my bike cutting out randomly and it was a starter relay that i replaced about 18 months ago and even though it was in a secure weather free position next to the battery it just broke apart, and was obviously just a cheap copy.
Think I paid about £55 for the latest one and it's sorted things out.
But symptoms of that were total power failure, so no lights or anything, not just engine cutting out.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: About 5000 rpms 1st gear, engine cut out.
« on: 04 February 2023, 08:06:34 pm »
Back to my question, how much history do you know about the bike?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: About 5000 rpms 1st gear, engine cut out.
« on: 04 February 2023, 09:31:38 am »
Does the bike start okay, or is it troublesome?


I would also get some electrical contact cleaner spray (DO NOT USE ANYTHING BUT THIS) and give the ignition barrel a good soak inside, whilst moving the key up and down and turning it to loosen any possible gunge or dirt that might be in there.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: About 5000 rpms 1st gear, engine cut out.
« on: 04 February 2023, 01:51:33 am »
Hello mate.
What's your history with the bike, have you had it a while or is it new to you?


My immediate thoughts would be to start with the simple first (doing one at a time) and change the air filter, then the spark plugs.
A "badly" blocked air filter could stop the engine breathing properly and the extra fuel could cause the popping noises, but if that is the case then a service wouldn't go amiss anyway.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Centre stand
« on: 29 January 2023, 04:42:16 pm »
Ha! Yeah nice one,
Bit of confusion here guess that’s my fault for a bad explanation of my woes.
Getting it off the side stand is not the issue it’s getting it on.
It seems straight enough and it pivots up and down smoothly but it seems very difficult compared to my mates fazer same model.
The bike is not lowered which would be the most obvious thing after eliminating it being bent.
The Fazer 1000 stand  looks identical but could be a tad bigger which led me to conclude it could be the wrong stand replaced at some point.
It will pop up onto the stand if someone stands at the back and yanks hard enough. (Fnar fnar)


Why don't you confuse things a bit more by saying side stand instead  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Centre stand
« on: 29 January 2023, 04:41:11 pm »
🤔 Just a note about sitting on the bike to push it off the centre stand, I have never done this as I am a bit short arsed! I was always told never to sit/put extra weight on the bike with the main stand down as this is what buckles and bends it, as it is only designed to take the weight of the bike, especially when rife with tin worm, which our bikes are famous for!😡  You should really consider use of the side or centre stand depending on how and where the bike is situated for ease of getting it off . So unless you are very long legged I would advise against this! Only my opinion, I’m sure the same as most of us vertically challenged stumpy twats!


Feet are on the floor when I do it, so never really thought about extra weight.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fan
« on: 29 January 2023, 11:09:07 am »
Thanks Darrsi
I’ll do the  rad flush thing the coolant that came out was a bit minging.


Empty what's in the system, PUT COOLANT BOLT BACK IN LOWER DOWN, empty the whole bottle of Radflush in, then fill up to the top with water. Then it's up to you, you can either go for a 5 or 10 mile ride in this cooler weather, or you can simply put the bike on the centre stand and let the bike tick over for 10 to 15 minutes.
Letting it tick over might even get the fan to eventually turn on.


Once you're done, flush everything out with a hose, then slowly fill the system up with the proper coolant mix trying to avoid glugging it in creating trapped air.
What i normally do is then let the bike tick over, even VERY GENTLY using a bit of throttle, with the thermostat cap off to let any air bubbles escape which will rise out to the top as the coolant cycles around the engine.
Then switch off, fill coolant right to the top, cap back on, and your system will be good for quite a while.


Just a note for anyone else reading this, this much cooler weather is ideal for doing the Radflush treatment because you don't want the bike overheating when there's mainly just water in the system, because the engine will boil plain water just like a kettle if it's already hot outside.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fan
« on: 28 January 2023, 10:26:02 pm »
I’m trying to work out if my water pump or thermostat are ok.
Took it out for a blast and left it running a while but the fan doesn’t kick in.
How often does the fan come on if left idle usually?
Cheers.
In 19.5 years and 97000 miles my fan has come on 3 times. Each time was in summer when tempreratures were close to 30C weather, Wouldnt worry much about it as it has an exceptionally efficient cooling system


Just bear in mind you have some of the most ghastly weather ever where you live, I speak to my Dublin branch quite often and I don't recall him saying what a lovely day it is over there  :lol

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Centre stand
« on: 28 January 2023, 10:23:06 pm »
I think any info about an fz6 centerstand may be confusing for the OP who is needing help with his FZs 600


Perhaps we should just keep any experiance on the subject to the fazer FZs 600.


Odd he has not come back here, hope he isn't lying under the bike calling for help after it fell on him when he followed fz6 procdures for his fzs


 :rollin :rollin :rollin

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Gear change mechanism question
« on: 28 January 2023, 08:35:54 pm »
Hi I removed the bolt with tiny screwdriver to get it moving and then put the drill very slowly onto it and out she came you gotta make sure those torque wrenches are set or they'll catch you out so easy to forget if don't use them very often!


It does seem to be a design thing to sheer a bolt head rather than the thread of the clutch hub.
That's why I mentioned before that using Loctite is not only not necessary but would actually turn things into a proper nightmare.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fan
« on: 28 January 2023, 08:26:36 pm »
Overflow bottle / expansion tank - same thing

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Fan
« on: 28 January 2023, 08:20:26 pm »
Ok thanks gents also Imput a new rad on and drained and flushed the whole system.
Filled it from the top end but the overflow resevoir remained empty, do i just top up from that end or do I have a blockage?


Did you use Radflush to clean the system?
It's all the waterways that get bunged up over time, and Radflush works similar to descaling a kettle.


You can top up the overflow bottle, but only do it when everything has cooled down.


Once the system is all good the coolant will rarely need to be topped up again unless the bike is in extreme heat.


When the system eventually gets clogged up over time, the waterways narrow and you'll get more fluid in the expansion tank which will eventually boil over then get released onto the floor via the overflow pipe.
Then when the bike cools down it sucks what is in the expansion tank back into the main system.


So it's a good pointer that your coolant system is healthy if the coolant sits back in the same place in the expansion tank when the bike cools down.
If it is low, or empty, you need to do the Radflush treatment.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Centre stand
« on: 28 January 2023, 07:44:05 pm »
That rather depends on whether your legs are long enough to be able to flat-foot the bike on both sides...!

If you can't then you have a bike that isn't suitable for you!

Then I've been riding a bike that's "not suitable for me" for the past 16 years and, indeed, I did both my Basic and Advanced Tests on bikes that were "not suitable for me".

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I would never take the bike off the centre stand without sitting on it.

I have never taken a bike off the centre stand whilst sitting on it.

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Plus standing on the left side means you can't even grab the front brake for any proper control either.

The only time that I could see that being an issue is if you were parked with the bike facing downhill, which suggests you made a mistake by parking it that way (and on the centre stand!) in the first place.


Good for you, but as mentioned, you don't have the same bike as us!

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