Centre stand

[Ratters]

So the centre stand on my bike will only spring up if someone yanks the bike from the back.
It’s not technique honest my mate has an fzs and his is easy.
I removed the stand and it seem straight and in decent order so I painted it and put it back greased up with lithium and its the same.
The bike is not lowered so Im wondering if it’s actually off a 1000cc fzs so a bit too big.
Does anybody have the correct measurements for a 600 stand from top to bottom so I can work it out please?


Much obliged for any help.

[BBROWN1664]

I am not quite sure I understand what you are saying here. Pull the bike backwards to get the bike of the centre stand?

You said the stand is straight but is the bracket bent making the rear wheel sit too close to the ground when its on the stand?

[Decoke Dave]

  I believe what he is saying is the bike is very difficult to get onto the centre stand, hence the comment about the technique of doing so and the possibility of it being the wrong stand, as a Thou stand could be longer? It is the terminology of “stand up” and “stand down”,  stand up means in use. Different to what most of us here would say. I ? so anyway.

[BBROWN1664]

  I believe what he is saying is the bike is very difficult to get onto the centre stand, hence the comment about the technique of doing so and the possibility of it being the wrong stand, as a Thou stand could be longer? It is the terminology of “stand up” and “stand down”,  stand up means in use. Different to what most of us here would say. I ? so anyway.

I was always taught, put your foot on the stand and then stand up straight holding onto the handle by the rear foot peg - always works for me. Getting the bike off the stand is another matter :pokefun

[Grahamm]

Getting the bike off the stand is another matter :pokefun

Extend the side stand, then place your left foot down so it's against the front of the centre stand.

Left hand goes on the handlebar, right hand on the rear grab rail.

Rock the bike back so it's on the rear wheel, then rock it forward and let the momentum roll it off the centre stand.

[fazersharp]

[quote author=Decoke Dave link=topic=27603.msg331045#msg331045 date=1674473947]
  I believe what he is saying is the bike is very difficult to get onto the centre stand, hence the comment about the technique of doing so and the possibility of it being the wrong stand, as a Thou stand could be longer? It is the terminology of “stand up” and “stand down”,  stand up means in use. Different to what most of us here would say. I ? so anyway.

I was always taught, put your foot on the stand and then stand up straight holding onto the handle by the rear foot peg - always works for me. Getting the bike off the stand is another matter :pokefun
[/quote]To get off the stand always sit on the bike first and just push forward and roll off it really easy and safe having both feet on the ground reduces the risk of drop if it gets the better of you and leans away from you if you are on one side.   

[Grahamm]

To get off the stand always sit on the bike first and just push forward and roll off it really easy and safe having both feet on the ground reduces the risk of drop if it gets the better of you and leans away from you if you are on one side.   

That rather depends on whether your legs are long enough to be able to flat-foot the bike on both sides...!

[darrsi]

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To get off the stand always sit on the bike first and just push forward and roll off it really easy and safe having both feet on the ground reduces the risk of drop if it gets the better of you and leans away from you if you are on one side.   

That rather depends on whether your legs are long enough to be able to flat-foot the bike on both sides...!
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If you can't then you have a bike that isn't suitable for you!
I would never take the bike off the centre stand without sitting on it. Plus standing on the left side means you can't even grab the front brake for any proper control either.

[BBROWN1664]

to be honest, getting the bike of the main stand is easy IF the stand isnt bent, the bracket isnt bent and you are not a 10st weakling.

As said above, stand on the left, left foot in front of the main stand, right hand on the brake lever and rock forwards, if thats too hard , right hand on the grab rail. Push/pull the bike forwards. job done.

My Tiger has a bent stand/bracket so the rear wheel is on the floor when on the main stand meaning a lot more force required to get it off the stand.

[darrsi]

to be honest, getting the bike of the main stand is easy IF the stand isnt bent, the bracket isnt bent and you are not a 10st weakling.

As said above, stand on the left, left foot in front of the main stand, right hand on the brake lever and rock forwards, if thats too hard , right hand on the grab rail. Push/pull the bike forwards. job done.

My Tiger has a bent stand/bracket so the rear wheel is on the floor when on the main stand meaning a lot more force required to get it off the stand.

Before i was fortunate to find an almost new looking replacement centre stand, the old one had rust holes and was quite twisted so was an absolute bugger to get the bike lifted up onto it. But as mentioned, not being a lightweight certainly helps matters.
I do reckon that sitting on the bike is a far safer way to put the bike down though, as it keeps the bike upright and straight, plus you have total control with both hands and feet, plus the aid of the front brake. Everything about it makes more sense.
I would imagine it's the bike not being totally upright that could cause the stand to twist over time when lowering the bike in the standing position.

[fazersharp]

[quote author=fazersharp link=topic=27603.msg331062#msg331062 date=1674836627]
To get off the stand always sit on the bike first and just push forward and roll off it really easy and safe having both feet on the ground reduces the risk of drop if it gets the better of you and leans away from you if you are on one side.   

That rather depends on whether your legs are long enough to be able to flat-foot the bike on both sides...!
[/quote]I can not flat foot both sides whilst its on the centre stand but can get enough toes on the ground to push off the stand and as Darrsi says both hands are on the bars and I have control of the front brake. Maybe its totally different for your FZ6 as we are talking about the FZS which is Ratters bike. Like you mentioned first putting the side stand down to put the bike on the centre stand which would just get in the way for me on an FZs.

When putting it on the centre I always make sure it is fully sitting on both stand feet as there is always the unintentional bias towards your side of the bike which could over time perhaps bend the stand making it increasingly more difficult to use. 

Ratters thinks his stand may be off an FZs 1000 but aren't they completely different looking and should be able to tell just by looking at it. 

[Grahamm]

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That rather depends on whether your legs are long enough to be able to flat-foot the bike on both sides...!

If you can't then you have a bike that isn't suitable for you![/quote]

Then I've been riding a bike that's "not suitable for me" for the past 16 years and, indeed, I did both my Basic and Advanced Tests on bikes that were "not suitable for me".

I would never take the bike off the centre stand without sitting on it.

I have never taken a bike off the centre stand whilst sitting on it.

Plus standing on the left side means you can't even grab the front brake for any proper control either.

The only time that I could see that being an issue is if you were parked with the bike facing downhill, which suggests you made a mistake by parking it that way (and on the centre stand!) in the first place.

[darrsi]

[quote author=darrsi link=topic=27603.msg331066#msg331066 date=1674851465]
[quote author=Grahamm link=topic=27603.msg331065#msg331065 date=1674847453]
That rather depends on whether your legs are long enough to be able to flat-foot the bike on both sides...!

If you can't then you have a bike that isn't suitable for you![/quote]

Then I've been riding a bike that's "not suitable for me" for the past 16 years and, indeed, I did both my Basic and Advanced Tests on bikes that were "not suitable for me".

I would never take the bike off the centre stand without sitting on it.

I have never taken a bike off the centre stand whilst sitting on it.

Plus standing on the left side means you can't even grab the front brake for any proper control either.

The only time that I could see that being an issue is if you were parked with the bike facing downhill, which suggests you made a mistake by parking it that way (and on the centre stand!) in the first place.
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Good for you, but as mentioned, you don't have the same bike as us!

[fazersharp]

I think any info about an fz6 centerstand may be confusing for the OP who is needing help with his FZs 600


Perhaps we should just keep any experiance on the subject to the fazer FZs 600.


Odd he has not come back here, hope he isn't lying under the bike calling for help after it fell on him when he followed fz6 procdures for his fzs

[darrsi]

I think any info about an fz6 centerstand may be confusing for the OP who is needing help with his FZs 600


Perhaps we should just keep any experiance on the subject to the fazer FZs 600.


Odd he has not come back here, hope he isn't lying under the bike calling for help after it fell on him when he followed fz6 procdures for his fzs

:rollin :rollin :rollin

[Decoke Dave]

? Just a note about sitting on the bike to push it off the centre stand, I have never done this as I am a bit short arsed! I was always told never to sit/put extra weight on the bike with the main stand down as this is what buckles and bends it, as it is only designed to take the weight of the bike, especially when rife with tin worm, which our bikes are famous for!?  You should really consider use of the side or centre stand depending on how and where the bike is situated for ease of getting it off . So unless you are very long legged I would advise against this! Only my opinion, I’m sure the same as most of us vertically challenged stumpy twats!

[Ratters]

Ha! Yeah nice one,
Bit of confusion here guess that’s my fault for a bad explanation of my woes.
Getting it off the side stand is not the issue it’s getting it on.
It seems straight enough and it pivots up and down smoothly but it seems very difficult compared to my mates fazer same model.
The bike is not lowered which would be the most obvious thing after eliminating it being bent.
The Fazer 1000 stand  looks identical but could be a tad bigger which led me to conclude it could be the wrong stand replaced at some point.
It will pop up onto the stand if someone stands at the back and yanks hard enough. (Fnar fnar)

[darrsi]

? Just a note about sitting on the bike to push it off the centre stand, I have never done this as I am a bit short arsed! I was always told never to sit/put extra weight on the bike with the main stand down as this is what buckles and bends it, as it is only designed to take the weight of the bike, especially when rife with tin worm, which our bikes are famous for!?  You should really consider use of the side or centre stand depending on how and where the bike is situated for ease of getting it off . So unless you are very long legged I would advise against this! Only my opinion, I’m sure the same as most of us vertically challenged stumpy twats!

Feet are on the floor when I do it, so never really thought about extra weight.

[darrsi]

Ha! Yeah nice one,
Bit of confusion here guess that’s my fault for a bad explanation of my woes.
Getting it off the side stand is not the issue it’s getting it on.
It seems straight enough and it pivots up and down smoothly but it seems very difficult compared to my mates fazer same model.
The bike is not lowered which would be the most obvious thing after eliminating it being bent.
The Fazer 1000 stand  looks identical but could be a tad bigger which led me to conclude it could be the wrong stand replaced at some point.
It will pop up onto the stand if someone stands at the back and yanks hard enough. (Fnar fnar)

Why don't you confuse things a bit more by saying side stand instead  :lol

[fazersharp]

Come to think of it, no i am not actually sitting on the bike when rolling it off the stand but just stradling it.
And yes I am totally confused now what Ratters is asking. Sidestand, centerstand, handstand, I don't understand. :lol