Autonomous vehicles survey

[Grahamm]

I saw this on the IAM Facebook page, asking people's opinions on autonomous cars, planes and ships.

It takes about 10-15 minutes to complete.
https://www.soscisurvey.de/drive2thefuture_en/

[YamFazFan]

I was going to participate, I'm against all autonomous vehicles, but just before I did I noticed that the survey is part of an EU project so that was the end of that :\ .

[Grahamm]

*Facepalm*

[YamFazFan]

*Facepalm*

Yeah that's also what I did when I heard that there was a campaign to deface and refuse to accept the new Brexit 50p's :lol

[darrsi]

I was going to participate, I'm against all autonomous vehicles, but just before I did I noticed that the survey is part of an EU project so that was the end of that :\ .

It was the first question that put me right off.
Male, female or other?
WTF  :rolleyes

[Grahamm]

It was the first question that put me right off.
Male, female or other?
WTF  :rolleyes

Yes, because your school biology was the be-all and end-all of the subject and it's not in *any* way more complicated than that... :rolleyes

[darrsi]

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It was the first question that put me right off.
Male, female or other?
WTF  :rolleyes

Yes, because your school biology was the be-all and end-all of the subject and it's not in *any* way more complicated than that... :rolleyes
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I reckon in a survey about autonomous vehicles the categories of male or female will do just fine don't you?
Or maybe XY or XX if it makes you feel any better?
Or is it a secret test to see how "Other" people think?

[mtread]

Go on, answer the question, man up! 

[Grahamm]

I reckon in a survey about autonomous vehicles the categories of male or female will do just fine don't you?

Right, so you want to force everyone into an arbitrary binary because that's what you feel comfortable with...  :rolleyes

Or maybe XY or XX if it makes you feel any better?

Nice way to demonstrate your ignorance of human chromosome patterns.

[Oldgit]

I'm just the right age for an autonomous vechicle.

[fazersharp]

[size=1em]Lets see who is behind this then shall we.[/size]

[size=1em]Its called [/size][size=1em]Horizon 2020 the European Research Council. Which is a research programme "steering group" that has spent €80 billion up to 2020 and are now looking for a further 100 billion to carry on, no wonder when the [/size][size=1em]Directorate-General for Research and Innovation who heads it is trousering at least 200K per year salary and a pension with equivalent to an 1.7m pot  :eek .[/size][size=1em]Also at the top running the EU quango are
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• [size=1em]A Commissioner[/size]
  
• [size=1em]Director-General[/size]
  
• [size=1em]Deputy Director-General x3[/size]
  

[size=1em]This from the man at the top -- “Getting people excited about European research is one of the main aims of Horizon 2020 Europe missions”  :rolleyes
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Oh and the IAM is one of the "partners"

[YamFazFan]

Nice try Grahamm :lol

[steve 10562cc]

Old git you'll never be the right age for one of them autonomous thing err me bobs not while you can still throw a leg over a bike.

[Grahamm]

Let's look a little further into who this group is:

Horizon 2020 is the biggest EU Research and Innovation programme ever with nearly €80 billion of funding available over 7 years (2014 to 2020) – in addition to the private investment that this money will attract. It promises more breakthroughs, discoveries and world-firsts by taking great ideas from the lab to the market.

Hmm.

In 2011 the EU Heads of State and Government called on the European Commission to bring together all of the previous EU's research and innovation funding under a single common strategic framework. The Commission launched a wide-ranging consultation involving all key stakeholders which has led to Horizon 2020.

The European Commission has compiled all the feedback from stakeholders, and has taken into account recommendations from the European Parliament, as well as lessons learned from previous programmes. The message was clear – make Horizon 2020 simpler for users – and it is!

So fazersharp seems to think funding research and innovation and bringing it together under one roof where efforts can be concentrated, rather than being scattered piecemeal all over Europe is a bad idea.

Nice try...

PS Oh and, of course, because we're *leaving*, we're no longer going to be able to participate or beneift from this scheme.

Professor Brian Cox has a few things to say about that...

We spent many years presenting the U.K. as the best place in the world to do science. Science is one of the fundamental foundations of our economy. These figures demonstrate what happens when a country trashes its international reputation. Hard to build, easy to destroy.

And so do the Royal Society:

- UK’s annual share of EU research funding has fallen by half a billion Euros since 2015
- Almost a 40% drop in UK applications to Horizon 2020
- 35% fewer scientists coming to the UK through key schemes

https://royalsociety.org/news/2019/10/br...k-science/

[fazersharp]

So fazersharp seems to think funding research and innovation and bringing it together under one roof where efforts can be concentrated, rather than being scattered piecemeal all over Europe is a bad idea.

You seem to be making things up, I never said any such thing.And is Brian Cox the best you can do -- the Jonny Morris of the science world  :rollin

[darrsi]

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Whilst many people may agree with what was posted here, it is pushing the boundaries of what some people think is normal these days.


Transphobia = the fear of people who cannot tell if they are male or female.

[Slaninar]

I thought the original reply was sarcastic - joking one.


Anyway, that's what happens when political correctness overcomes the common sense.


As far as computer-driven cars: I would be surprised if, by the time my grand-kids get to the driving age any person is still allowed to drive a car - humans will surely be considered too unreliable. Just like new cars today can't be sold without an ABS (correct me if that's still allowed within the EU at least).

[Grahamm]

Yes, that's what i'm doing, i'm FORCING people to tell the truth.
Are you a man, or a woman?
It ain't a difficult question.

Thank you for proving you're an ignorant bigot.

[Grahamm]

Anyway, that's what happens when political correctness overcomes the common sense.

"I started imagining a world in which we replaced the phrase 'politically correct' wherever we could with 'treating other people with respect' "

- Neil Gaiman.

[Grahamm]

You seem to be making things up, I never said any such thing.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the deafening noise of those dog whistles...

And is Brian Cox the best you can do -- the Jonny Morris of the science world

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Cox studied physics at the University of Manchester. He earned a Bachelor of Science degree with first-class honours and a Master of Philosophy degree in physics.

He completed his Doctor of Philosophy degree in high-energy particle physics at the University of Manchester.

His thesis, Double Diffraction Dissociation at Large Momentum Transfer was based on research he did on the H1 experiment at the Hadron Elektron Ring Anlage (HERA) particle accelerator at the DESY laboratory in Hamburg, Germany.

Cox is a Royal Society University Research Fellow, a PPARC Advanced Fellow, and particle physicist at the University of Manchester and he works on the ATLAS experiment at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN.

He is working on the research and development project of the FP420 experiment in an international collaboration to upgrade the ATLAS and the Compact Muon Solenoid (CMS) experiment by installing additional, smaller detectors at a distance of 420 metres from the interaction points of the main experiments.

Cox has co-authored several books on physics including Why does E=mc2?[38] and The Quantum Universe, both with Jeff Forshaw.

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I can explain the big words to you if you want...