"It's similar to the way that people switching to EVs from petrol needed to change their way of thinking from "drive until the tank is nearly empty, then fill up" which caused them to complain that it took ages to charge their car back to full and, instead, drive half the distance, charge up so they have enough in the battery to get them to their destination with a safe margin, then charge up again whilst they're doing what they need to do after they arrive".
And if everyone followed that example, drivers who commute a longer distance will not be able to top up the batteries halfway to the destination as others will also halfway to their destination. I'm self employed, and my working destinations have no charging facilities at all (most of them are in the middle of nowhere), and to cop it all, there isn't an electric car with the range for me to commute to a customer and then get back again, whereas the Audi (if driven carefully LOL) can do 800 miles to a tank.
And to really upset the applecart - the usage and reliance on electricity will be worse - a bit like everyone putting the kettle on as they catch a commercial break on a tv programme. This country does not have the infrastructure to cope with the electric demand this winter - the government have already stated there will be power cuts in certain areas of the country (but not the London area) as they switch the supply around to where they feel it should go.
There is a distinct relationship between the 1970's and the decade we find ourselves in - 1970's power cuts, 3 day weeks due to lack of power. If they get the 4 day week going it won't make a difference to the electric supply, as everyone will be at home with multiple electrical appliances on the go and the Tesla plugged in outside. It's a chicken and egg situation, but somebodies pushed the chicken onto the road in rush hour!
Well said, sums it up nicely.
Yep, current life in a nutshell.
Whizz kid sitting pretty on his two wheeled stallion.
Unless everyone is going to exactly the same destination, at exactly the same time and isn't using smart apps to let them know where available charging points are, the described scenario sounds more like someone just looking for excuses to object to EVs.
And, of course, that's mostly people travelling *between* cities, rather than driving *in* cities which is what we're actually talking about.
Oh and...
The risk of winter blackouts in Great Britain has tumbled to its lowest in four years even after the shutdown of the UK’s last coal plant, thanks to investments in low-carbon electricity sources.
The National Energy System Operator (Neso) expects Britain’s winter power supplies to outstrip demand by almost 9% this year in its base case scenario, the greatest margin since the winter of 2019 to 2020.
The company responsible for keeping the lights on, which was bought by the government from National Grid at the start of this month, said the power supply margin for this winter was higher because Great Britain has more battery storage projects, small-scale renewables and imported electricity.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...nergy-neso
you missed this bit from the same article graham
The UK is expected to rely on record levels of imported electricity this winter
https://www.theguardian.com/business/202...nergy-neso
You missed the rest of the paragraph, agricola.
[...] the first since the world’s longest high-voltage power cable began importing enough clean electricity from Denmark to power 2.5m British homes.
The Viking power link, which can also export British electricity to Denmark, is a vital part of the UK’s strategy to wean itself off fossil fuel power by creating a flexible, low-carbon electricity grid.
Still not buying an EV - for example, my youngest step-daughter (who works for EDF on the new Nuclear Power Plant near Bridgewater), visited yesterday, to pick up the wife to go to a ballet performance in Birmingham. She departed Bristol with a fully charged car, drove to Worcester (approx 65 miles) and even then she had to start planning and booking a parking space in Birmingham in which to park and charge for the return journey.
At no point did she get told how much the charging would cost - and we think the price of proper fuel is highway robbery.
The world needs to have choices in order to develop, and not have something foisted upon us with no other options.
I laugh, as when I was in Cyprus this year, the subject of EV's came up and they are not selling well at all on the island - the main reason is there are only 6 (six) charging points in the whole of the island (north and south). From where we were staying it was a two hr drive to get to a charger! And don't even mention Electric aircraft - even the Civil Aviation Authority cannot see the point when the thing can only have a useful flight time of 30 minutes.
I'm once again reminded of the American who stated that he could see no point in having to pay for gasoline for an automobile when he could buy hay for his horse at any farm...
I'm happy to buy diesel - I haven't got a horse.................
If you had a horse, no doubt some yoghurt knitter would complain that it farts too much, and is a major contributor to global warming.
Whizz kid sitting pretty on his two wheeled stallion.
If you had a horse, no doubt some yoghurt knitter would complain that it farts too much, and is a major contributor to global warming.
Haha LOL. Tesco's tried to do their bit with protecting the earth from horse's a few years ago, from what I remember.........
Anyway, what's the use of just one horse - you need more than one to get anywhere quickly!
Seaweed pellets.
The seaweed will have to be collected from the beach then, or dragged from the sea bed, loaded into container lorries and transported to the newly built processing factories for processing, then transported to all of the farms.
Just shifting the problem really.
I suppose next up will be methane capture
The seaweed will have to be collected from the beach then, or dragged from the sea bed, loaded into container lorries and transported to the newly built processing factories for processing, then transported to all of the farms.
That's not going to happen is it - that would upset the undersea ecology.........
I think the answer with seaweed production lies in the utilisation of salt marshes and other flood prone areas......
Why don't people read links before declaring that something won't work or is too difficult or some other spurious reason...?
Seaweed farming expansion could cut carbon emissions, improve food security
Yup, shifting problems from the land to the sea
How many people in the affected areas will be complaining now that they didnt get the alert having moaned about the test a couple of years ago and switched off alerts on their phones.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxlwz219ko
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
There are some people who will object to or complain about anything...
I accidentally cliicked on the wrong part of the screen and ended up back on page 1 of this thread where I found this post...
Quote:Monday, August 12th, 2019, 12:42 pm - BBROWN1664
How long with this thread go on?
Mr Mac is to blame for all of this
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
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