Spot lights

[Dan Gliballs]

Like them on the gs or other type bikes. has anyone fitted some with any success ? are the cheap ones any good?

[Frosties]

Hiya fella,


I've bought and fitted these to my boxeye and they make a hell of a diffence. Will get a pic up asap.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2X-10W-Cree-LE...SwbYZXf0sF


Used a fuse tap to link into a switched circuit on the bike http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2pc-Add-A-Circ...Sw3ydV5lbw




I've bolted them straight to the top bolt of the radiator side plate. I know what you're thinking but a damaged rad is the least of my worries if the bike goes down hard.

[Frosties]

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[Frosties]

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[tommyardin]

Spots make a huge difference to night riding and also add another layer of safety for day time riding also.
I fitted a couple on my Fazer a year or so ago, I feel more confident by being able to see better at night and also being seen in the daytime.


The spots I fitted are 30watt Projector Crees, they are amazingly bright and double the light out put at night, I have them focused on the low side so as not to cause issues for oncoming drivers and they really light up the area 30 feet in front of the bike, kerbs and road edges are also illuminated well.


The link below is for evilBay   


[size=1em]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-UNIVERSAL-...Sw3zxXMMMA[/size]

I just clicked the link and went back to the EvilBay web page, and was shocked at the price this particular seller is asking I paid about 15 or 17 quid for them when I bought them I also bought a silver pair of cheap bar end weights for the ends of the mounting pipes.

[Frosties]

Got the same as you Tomski fitted to my CBF. ALL my bikes have either the same as yours or the 10w Cree type fitted - all set to about 25 -30 ft same as you.


I know from drivers reactions, when filtering, that they have made THE difference between being seen or not.Ride with them on at all times.

[Dan Gliballs]

Hi thanks for the input will look into this some more

[Dan Gliballs]

Is the effectiveness of the indicators not compromised  by the close proximity and high brightness of the spot lights?

[Dudeofrude]

Is the effectiveness of the indicators not compromised  by the close proximity and high brightness of the spot lights?

That's a bludy good point! I've noticed that problem with a lot of newer cars, the headlights or running lights are so big and bright that they over power the indicators. I can't think which car it is but I'm sure it's a new Ford that has DRL's that change to orange while indicating then return back to white afterwards,  great idea.

[Frosties]

Is the effectiveness of the indicators not compromised  by the close proximity and high brightness of the spot lights?

No. They dazzle more in the pics than real life.

[tommyardin]

Is the effectiveness of the indicators not compromised  by the close proximity and high brightness of the spot lights?

Hi Dan,
No! the way I have mine, and its sounds as if Tiger (Frosties) has his pointed in the same direction and height, they do not overpower the wandercaters at all, there seems to be very little spurious light emission from these LED Projector lamps, it is a definite spot beam with very little breakaway light, so indicators not effected.

I I [size=1em]have tried mine at different height levels and the level that the cars stopped flashing  :eek  me is around, at the top of beam 30 foot in front of front tyre.

And as Frosties said, that it really helps when filtering and I have also noticed that cars do not pull out of side roads in front of me like they did when I just had dipped lamps on. No guarantees on that one though.

mines a 2002-2003 model FZS600, so both dipped beams are on automatically anyway. (Foxeye)

My spots are wired into the main supply to the side lamps that way they come on with side lights, and as the side lights stay on with the headlamps therefore so do the spots. The other good thing about wiring them this was is 'Ignition Off' everything off, so it is not possible to leave the spots on without realising it in the daytime when parked up,  :rolleyes  no flattening the bike battery. [/size]
[size=1em]Jobs-a-gudun.      [/size]

[Dan Gliballs]

Is "cree" a brand? And between you i have links to 10w and 30w lights but there are some cheaper ones on ebay saying 125w, i take it those are bollocks and you get what you pay for?

[tommyardin]

My understanding is that Cree is the type of LED used in these lamps rather than a brand.
See Below:


Cree Inc. is a multinational manufacturer of semiconductor light-emitting diode (LED) materials and devices, with its headquarters in Durham, North Carolina. Most of its products are based on silicon carbide.
Good old Wiki

[tommyardin]

Not sure if this is going to work or not video from my phone, might try it with Go-Pro if it does not work

[tommyardin]

Hey it did work, double click the link to download 3 or 4 second video.  :woot

[tommyardin]

You will probably notice that I do not leave my wandercators on by mistake either lol

[tommyardin]

I have my Hazard warning indicators on and it took me 5 shots to catch it with them on, :'(  the other four pics were caught between the flashes.

[Dan Gliballs]

That looks decent mate! Not convinced on the white V on the screen though.

These are the cheap 125w ones

Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262749223644

Its a mine field eBay at times!

[tommyardin]

That looks decent mate! Not convinced on the white V on the screen though.

These are the cheap 125w ones

Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262749223644

Its a mine field eBay at times!

Yeah I saw those when I was looking a while back, but opted for the lower wattage ones, I'm sure they will be really bright but the problem is that you are adding another 250Watt load on the bikes charging system along with all the other lights that you will have on at the time.


Standard 2002-2003 FZS600 power consumption is (I would Imagine) 2 X 55 watt dipped headlights , 2 X 5 watt rear tail lights, 2 X 5 watt front sidelights, plus maybe another 10 watts for the instrument lights.


That's a total of approx 140 watts, with the spots you are proposing you are adding an extra 250 watts load on the generator, I not convinced it would keep up and if it did I would have to ask how long for.


The total lighting load on your generator would be 390 watts, that well over a third of a kilowatt.


My lighting system total load is 200 watts, I have to admit I was a bit concerned about my generator having to work to hard when I first fitted them, but so far all is good.
When I get back from a ride I plug the battery conditioner (Oxford) in straight away and it always goes straight to Maintain Mode, indicating that the battery is fully charged.
On the other hand the Cree spots that you supplied the link for when I was first looking for spots they were between £28 and £32 a pair.


It may well be that the generator would handle the added load of these 250 watt a pair spots. I am sure there is a foccer out there that could throw some light on the subject (Haha no pun intended)

[tommyardin]

That looks decent mate! Not convinced on the white V on the screen though.

These are the cheap 125w ones

Look at this on eBay  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262749223644

Its a mine field eBay at times!

Yeah mixed feelings from people about the [size=1.45em]V [/size][size=1em]on the screen, they are professional quality ribbon of 18 LEDs each side of the [/size]V [size=1em]about 24 watts in tota[/size][size=1em]l, they are fitted to the inside of the screen. [/size][size=1em]Again these are also wired into the sidelight system so they are on with the other lights as you can see in the picture, but I have a switch fitted to the fairing infill panel to the live supply to the LEDs so I can turn them off at night when riding as they throw a bit of light back in my face, plus I wear glasses that doesn't help with the glare, but I guess it would be the same with just the visor.[/size]