Thinking of getting rospa certified

[clayt74]

As title, been thinking about it for ages but my main drive now is to join a volunteer blood/NHS bike service.
My question really to any advanced riders is will a tired 2002 foxeye 600 60k miles and used everyday, be an adequate bike for training and test??  Keeping up with all those big bemers?

[Arfa]

Don't see why not. Currently just started an IAM course on my very similar Fazer. Quite a mixed bag of bikes and people on the IAM course intake I'm in with. Surely, it's not what you ride, but how you ride.

[richfzs]

Not sure about rospa, but I believe iam's only stipulation is that it's a 500 or greater

[clayt74]

Don't see why not. Currently just started an IAM course on my very similar Fazer. Quite a mixed bag of bikes and people on the IAM course intake I'm in with. Surely, it's not what you ride, but how you ride.

Yep that's what I was hoping!

[fazersharp]

I looked into the volunteer blood/NHS bike service but it seemed that there were just too many restrictions, like you had to be ROSPA or IAM and then if i couldn't guarantee so many days or hours then I could not use the volunteer blood bike that they pass around and so I would have to use my bike, only at my cost I would have to fix a massive tea tray on the back.
Im sure that you know but its not just blood it could be things like urgent documents even.

[clayt74]

I looked into the volunteer blood/NHS bike service but it seemed that there were just too many restrictions, like you had to be ROSPA or IAM and then if i couldn't guarantee so many days or hours then I could not use the volunteer blood bike that they pass around and so I would have to use my bike, only at my cost I would have to fix a massive tea tray on the back.
Im sure that you know but its not just blood it could be things like urgent documents even.

Yeah I get its not all frills!  And I get that most is about fund raising and keeping the service  going!!
Yes it will cost me in training and handover bikes etc.....  But its more worthwhile than a few quid donation each month?

[stevierst]

I ride for NW blood bikes and use my Thundercat with just a top box fitted with no probs at all.

Don't know about other areas, but for the NW you only need advanced if you want to ride the blue light bikes And to be honest they rarely put the blue lights on, as the legislation won't let them break any laws, so they're pointless really.

I'd look into it a bit further if I were you and see if you really need the advanced ticket if your after being a blood biker.

[richfzs]

Depends (to answer stevie's last point) on the local group - ok Northumbria Blood Bikes, we insist on riders having an advanced ticket. But then we also don't allow use of private vehicles, and pay for the fuel in the charity bikes - so overall, it's going to work out a lot less than not doing iam/rospa, but buying your own fuel. Some of our riders are doing 200 miles in a shift, doesn't take many shifts before you're better off.

But of course, it's not about the money - the satisfaction can be (is)  huge.

[clayt74]

I ride for NW blood bikes and use my Thundercat with just a top box fitted with no probs at all.

Don't know about other areas, but for the NW you only need advanced if you want to ride the blue light bikes And to be honest they rarely put the blue lights on, as the legislation won't let them break any laws, so they're pointless really.

I'd look into it a bit further if I were you and see if you really need the advanced ticket if your after being a blood biker.

Thanks Stevierst  I will look closer, the group I was looking at are freewheelers. Org
They have full spec blood bikes.... But as you say most deliveries  are info or bits.  I would happily courier on my own bike if I could be of use and meet the deadlines?
I know a civil can't fully utilise blue lights but it's a great way of people seeing and making space for you whilst you ride perfectly legally!!!

[clayt74]

Depends (to answer stevie's last point) on the local group - ok Northumbria Blood Bikes, we insist on riders having an advanced ticket. But then we also don't allow use of private vehicles, and pay for the fuel in the charity bikes - so overall, it's going to work out a lot less than not doing iam/rospa, but buying your own fuel. Some of our riders are doing 200 miles in a shift, doesn't take many shifts before you're better off.

But of course, it's not about the money - the satisfaction can be (is)  huge.

That's the kinda information I was given!
I don't mind paying for the ticket, I don't mind my time and effort........ And yes as a focca  I wouldn't mind a blast on a 1200rt
Lol

[Skippernick]

Not sure about rospa, but I believe iam's only stipulation is that it's a 500 or greater

IAM stipulations that the vehicle must be able to maintain the national speed limit, i.e. 70mph. With out help like doing 70 on a 125 downhill,  :lol

[clayt74]

[quote author=richfzs link=topic=15824.msg181519#msg181519 date=1422384742]
Not sure about rospa, but I believe iam's only stipulation is that it's a 500 or greater

IAM stipulations that the vehicle must be able to maintain the national speed limit, i.e. 70mph. With out help like doing 70 on a 125 downhill,  :lol
[/quote]
Lol...... Good input!  Cheers Skippernick   lol

[Punkstig]

If you use your own bike surely you'd need courier insurance to be legal!?

[karlo]

Yes 600cc is fine, speaking from IAM you learn at your own pace, go along and have an assessment ride which is free and no commitment needs to be made.

http://www.iam.org.uk/riders/riders-cour...orcyclists


http://www.iam.org.uk/iam-groups/iam-gro...ory/search

[richfzs]

If you use your own bike surely you'd need courier insurance to be legal!?

Generally no, as it's not paid work. Depends on the insurance company of course, and the op will need to inform his, to be certain, but I'm fleet manager for Northumbria Blood Bikes, and our policy is sd&p - they're fully aware of what we do.

[stevierst]

Yeah, we've been told to contact insurance companies and ask them.
I'm told vast majority of companies as richfzs said just want to be told, but some want buisness insurance which will cost peanuts.

[maddog04]

great that you're thinking about blood bikes but either way, do your IAM or RoSPA

the amount you will learn is unbelievable and you'll be a far better rider for it, no matter how good or bad you think you are now

the fazer will be fine, done mine on a 650 bandit. don't worry about keeping up with the beemers.........as an advanced rider you'll be riding at the speed limit all the time (unless conditions dictate otherwise)

it doesn't even matter if you don't pass the test at the end, the knowledge you'll gain is invaluable

[bigralphie]

I have also been thinking of joining the Blood Bikers as they were asking for volunteers in Lancashire
I not bothered about using the charities bikes  ,be an excuse to buy a nice Suzuki DR750 or Africa Twin as a 2nd bike :-)


Only thing holding me back is I work long hours so really only 1 weekend day is up for grabs
I could do mid week but I don't get home until 18.00 and I could be doing a 18 hour day which is likely to be frowned on by someone  :\

[Grahamm]

As title, been thinking about it for ages but my main drive now is to join a volunteer blood/NHS bike service.
My question really to any advanced riders is will a tired 2002 foxeye 600 60k miles and used everyday, be an adequate bike for training and test?? 

I did my IAM Test on a 600 FZ6, so I don't see why not :thumbup