I went to test ride a new NC750 which I have been tempted by. Granted its only a twin so different from a fazer. I couldn't believe how boring it was to ride. My fazer is a 2003 and I could by the NC no problem but I must say these fazers are a cracking bike. I couldn't ride a new NC750 instead of a Fazer. Ok they might be better on fuel and newer but the fazer would leave it standing. The fazer is a much better machine.....In many ways...
This is what i need i reckon.....a good ride on some other bikes to show me how good the fazer is.
But im scared ill like one and do something stupid.
On the basis that i havent had many issues keeping with a multitude of other bikes i think the 600 fazer is all anyone needs in the real world.
Isnt stopping me wanting a shot on an old 954 fireblade though. 8)
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(23-02-14, 07:35 PM)noggythenog link Wrote: On the basis that i havent had many issues keeping with a multitude of other bikes i think the 600 fazer is all anyone needs in the real world It's what I always say. I've always been a person that never buys the same thing twice, cars, bikes, anything...... That is unless it's so good that it deserves it.
I've now had 3 fazer 600's!!!
And I've got an fz1 Fazer.
I only moved on to a thundercat because I bought some horrible mistakes last year, and regretted not buying another fazer.
I had a tdm 850 (yawn), a bandit 600 (looked nice but was a thirsty slug), sv650 (slow, vibey), tiger 1050 (old man's bike).
On each one of those bikes there was something missing. The fazer just ticks ALL the boxes, not just most of them!
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
But how do you compare the T'cat to the fazer?
I've had 2 of each and do prefer the T'cat's better handling and slighter better performance!
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(23-02-14, 09:11 PM)Punkstig link Wrote: But how do you compare the T'cat to the fazer?
I've had 2 of each and do prefer the T'cat's better handling and slighter better performance! Gotta admit, the more time I spend with the TC, the better it gets!
It's more fun on the twisties than the fazer, but bottom end of the revs is slightly fluffy in comparison, Fazer has better manners in town.
The TC suspension is far superior though, edged the tyres with ease, and they're BT021 which I really don't like!
I had to flip the bars over to make her more comfy, as I'm an old git with a glass spine and knackered wrists! (I was going to do a Renthal conversion, but no need now)
53mpg, about the same as the fazer too. It's about as close to a Fazer as it gets without it being a Fazer.
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
I put a Hagon rear shock on mine which is a massive improvement over standard, I got the shock in the loft atm for when I get another T'cat, but I've just ordered a Nitron for the fazer and heard that you can send it back and they rebuild it for different bikes for about £100, when I confirm this I'll be putting the Hagon up for sale!
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I've only ever ridden an ER-6N but the fazer is far more fun. I love it
(23-02-14, 09:36 PM)Punkstig link Wrote: I put a Hagon rear shock on mine which is a massive improvement over standard, I got the shock in the loft atm for when I get another T'cat, but I've just ordered a Nitron for the fazer and heard that you can send it back and they rebuild it for different bikes for about £100, when I confirm this I'll be putting the Hagon up for sale! Let me know when your letting it go buddy, I might be interested!
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
Thing is the fazer is the only bike ive ever had.....now i like to listen to folks in the know so that means i would regret selling my fazer i know it...so i need a bigger shed.
Now i did have my heart set on a gen 2 thou but they're still too pricey & the bikes are too similar to keep both but if i was to squeeze another bike in the shed...lets say an old fireblade & keep my 600 then i can once and for all take my time deciding whether to get rid the 6 or keep it.
Oh i dunno.... I still want a gen 2 thou......foc! :'(
So i best get saving some more.
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Why a gen 2? (is that the first fuel injection?)
If so the gen1 carb has more spm's
(smiles per mile!)
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(23-02-14, 11:08 PM)Punkstig link Wrote: Why a gen 2? (is that the first fuel injection?)
If so the gen1 carb has more spm's
(smiles per mile!) +1 on the gen 1 being more bang for your buck. The gen 2 is a bit of an acquired taste, and more expensive to do everything to. :'(
Stop polishing it and ride the bloody thing!!
Always wondered...................Why is the Boxeye considered to be better than the early carb Foxeye????????
I keep looking at the Foxeye (nice blue one up in the for sale section) for the looks and extra fuel capacity! Would the bike ride the same??
Those are my principles...if you don't like them I have others.
I'm on my 2nd Fazer, and rode an SV650 inbetween, which I really didn't like.
I like the idea of either a Street Triple, or some kind of Buell though...
(23-02-14, 11:19 PM)Frosties link Wrote: Always wondered...................Why is the Boxeye considered to be better than the early carb Foxeye????????
I keep looking at the Foxeye (nice blue one up in the for sale section) for the looks and extra fuel capacity! Would the bike ride the same?? They're not- we're (although off topic and wrong section) talking about the gen1 vs gen2 1000cc fazers.
Boxeye vs foxeye 600 is the same mechanical apart from fairing shape (obviously) and other pretty my nor details which were progression upgrades like tank size.
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(23-02-14, 11:08 PM)Punkstig link Wrote: Why a gen 2? (is that the first fuel injection?)
If so the gen1 carb has more spm's
(smiles per mile!)
I like the thought of fuel injection, the sealed system, no carb balancing, less issues after winter storage since im a fair weather guy.
Plus i like that the gen2 is sports orientated as i dont tour or carry pillions....it is closer to a sports bike.
& they are of course newer with more modern technology.
But gotta be honest im not too keen on the gen 2 looks.
Fazer 8 somehow looks better than the thou imo although how that could be im not sure as i thought they were almost the same apart from engine size, maybe i've just seen better colour schemes on the 8 or somethin...but with it being a slow seller then future parts is a small issue.
But ye the old fazer 6 is good, just a bit old & i suppose mine lost its appeal after being crashed as it is a bit scabby round the edges....but as a package it is great.
I wanna wait see after ive been out on it again this summer, it's always the same...always want something better when im not riding but then i get back on the saddle & i fall back in love with it.....the difference between looking at bikes & riding them.
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It's not only that noggy, vast majority of first gen fuel injection (any make/model bike)are shite in comparison to the carb models they replaced (there are exceptions) it's taken a fare few years to get the fueling right on injection bikes.
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(24-02-14, 12:13 AM)Punkstig link Wrote: It's not only that noggy, vast majority of first gen fuel injection (any make/model bike)are shite in comparison to the carb models they replaced (there are exceptions) it's taken a fare few years to get the fueling right on injection bikes.
Ye good point punk coz it would only be one of the first i could afford anyway.
Ill hold out a little longer i reckon...once im on the road then i wont be looking at the bike with it's uglyness, i'll put a paper bag over its head....always works with the ladies :b
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I have a similar feeling to you noggy - only bikes I've ridden have been the Fazers. Granted, I did my test on a GS500, BUT that was a while ago and its very hard to compare since at the time you aren't thinking about how the bikes feels - you're trying to ride the bugger regardless.
Loads of different things I would like to try, but the Fazer is staying based on everything I hear. Very glad I bought my Gen 1 thou, best vehicle I've owned. My cage comes second but is in need of some TLC
As for gen 1 vs gen 2 1000's - I agree with what you said about the looks, some Gen 2's just don't look right to me :\
I had the FZ6 05 didn't like it. Engine to revy no midrange and I didn't like the front fairing and headlight style. Carbs get me excited man. They feel a lot more raw.
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