Engine Rebuild

[Dead Eye]

So as most of you know, my previous Fazer sort of burnt to the ground. I am however thinking of bringing it back to life but before I start on anything I need to make sure that it is actually feasible.

Now the fire got hot enough to render the rear wheel complete mush so with that in mind, how is the swing arm and engine going to have faired? Is it possible for me to salvage the engine and rebuild it, or is it simply destroyed? I would love for it to be ok, as I can potter about in my newly finished garage (today!!) and methodically dismantle and repair the old engine in my sweet time as I have a running Fazer to ride despite its many small issues...

The work required doesn't bother me and I think I have the tools and knowledge to under-take the job so that's not an issue either.

So without further babbling, are there any technical foccers out there who can lend some advice?

[Chris]

Yay! Glad the garage is finished mate! Goodluck with the rebuild.  8)  keep us posted!

Chris

[Dead Eye]

Well, all being well, I may end up starting a build thread and show the process from start to finish

[Chris]

Well, all being well, I may end up starting a build thread and show the process from start to finish

That'd be great, we may well have a projects section soon too 

Chris

[Lawrence]

Well, all being well, I may end up starting a build thread and show the process from start to finish

:thumbup  Lots of photos please

[Foxwood]

Well as a basic metallurgic principle, anytime steels or alloys are heated (notably more than in day-to-day temperature changes) their strength qualities do change. How much is hard to say in this case. An idea of how much heat it has been exposed to can be found from heat coloring of the parts. For example if they have been colored bluish, it can suggest very high temperatures that may weaken alloys significantly.

[Fazerider]

If the fire was hot enough to soften the alloy of the rear wheel then I would definitely look for a new swing arm.
The engine, on the other hand, looks from the photos to have been far enough away from the most intense part of the fire to have survived. It is basically one big conductive lump, even if the sprocket and clutch covers have been heat damaged, the rest should be useable. Rubber parts such as gear shift and driveshaft seals may need replacing of course, but the main bulk of the motor stands a very good chance of being OK.

[Dead Eye]

These were my thoughts, but thought I'd would check first to see if there were any resident metallurgists hanging around ^^

Obviously parts that need to be replaced will be. I think the frame can be salvaged - though the grab rail literally disintegrated...

The forks will need a very good service but should also be fine so I think the majority of it should be ok. It's going to take a while mostly from a financial perspective in sourcing new replacement parts

[Chris]

Will be an awesome project though! Shame it's come around this way but it'll be great to tinker away with it all. Got any outlandish plans for it or going to try and stick it back to standard/standard+?

The obvious road of streetfightering it/making it a naked bike would save having to source/pay for a fairing etc and would let you put your own unique twist to the fazer theme, possibly cheaper in some aspects although it all depends what you upgrade/replace/have custom made.

Chris

[Dead Eye]

I may have it without fairings initially, but I will aim to get it back to almost stock bar the standard sort of mods we've all come to know and love ^^

First things first is making sure I have a frame, engine and wheels really

The worst bit is going to electronics. The wiring is completely fubar and I had to severe large chunks of wire when attempting to move it - so I will definitely be back for electronics help! Thankfully I have a second bike to follow if I get lost. Its a huge project and probably the largest I've considered undertaking, but being able to do it at my leisure, at home, whilst having another bike on the road does take the pressure off.

I've been wanting to change the cambelts and tensioner on my car, I have all the parts but I just haven't gotten around to it as I don't have another car whilst mine is off the road... I used to but that's a whole other story

[simonm]

Be a complete nutjob and shoehorn the engine in to a Caterham seven replica, and stuff a turbo or two on it too ;-)


Is it worth spending that much time on a bike/engine that's gonna be worth £1k or so ?


Just offering an alternative perspective and more options.


Have fun and definitely do some pics.  I'd love to see the burn out pixs too.

[Dead Eye]

I'm not doing it for money, I'm doing it for me - both experience and the fun or it

I'll be doing nearly everything myself and hopefully I won't need to spend huge amounts but over the long term if I do sell the bike (very unlikely) I'd be lucky if I broke even on it and that's before you take in to account everything I spent before this all happened

[Exupnut]

You could swap it with bozboz. Its cleaner than his.


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[dBfazer600]

Just trying to add a file and I is failing baddly

[Dead Eye]

What is the file?

[Exupnut]

A computer file is a block of arbitrary information, or resource for storing information, which is available to a computer program and is usually based on some kind of durable storage. A file is durable in the sense that it remains available for programs to use after the current program has finished. Computer files can be considered as the modern counterpart of paper documents which traditionally are kept in offices' and libraries' files, and this is the source of the term. A group of files used by the same program can be packed into one archive file.mate. ;-)



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[Dead Eye]

If I had asked "what is a file" then your response would be appropriate... I am well aware of what a file is - I was more interested in the file contents :p

[dBfazer600]

What is the file?

Its a youtube clip that is a fazer rebuild Yamaha FZS600 engine assembly and test drive after valve lapping
I Just figured it out

Ta Fellas

Daz

[Chris]

Great video  8)

I expect a similar one from you Deadeye 

Chris

[dBfazer600]

Would like to know who this guy is. He says it took him 3 evenings to put it all back together, I is impressd.

Daz