Classic autopilot stuff....

[richfzs]

Wishful thinking, maybe? :rollin

http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sp...th-mclaren

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[Exupnut]

Dying to click that link but i'm gonna wait until 2;30 to watch the highlights. I heard it was quite an exciting race and tha vettel had been a naughty boy.


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[richfzs]

With his girlfriend watching on her phone in the pit, with a camera on her too. Couldn't have been better really :rollin

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[Exupnut]

Brilliant race. Loadsa drama. Hamilton mistake priceless fer us but he seemed embarassed in his interview.


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[Grahamm]

I don't think anyone came out of that race smiling...!

[red98]

the lovley suzi perry was smiling  .....think shes playing a little game  :lol

[ghostbiker]

when your payed THAT much money pulling in to the wrong pits is such a stupid mistake to make.  :o i am sure his embarrised looks were more about his team mate and the teams choice.

and i know it will never happen but vettel should be punished hard by his team, a race ban would put him in his place and let him know he inst the only person in a team. but as i say, it will never happen and he will at most get an insignificant fine.

[DryRob]

when your payed THAT much money pulling in to the wrong pits is such a stupid mistake to make.  :o i am sure his embarrised looks were more about his team mate and the teams choice.

and i know it will never happen but vettel should be punished hard by his team, a race ban would put him in his place and let him know he inst the only person in a team. but as i say, it will never happen and he will at most get an insignificant fine.

He did look embarrassed by his actions but I was more shocked to hear an f1 driver own up to a mistake and not try and blame something else.

[Lawrence]

and i know it will never happen but vettel should be punished hard by his team, a race ban would put him in his place and let him know he inst the only person in a team. but as i say, it will never happen and he will at most get an insignificant fine.

Webber should've been told to move over and let him pass.

[richfzs]

Why, because he's second class (in the team's eyes) ?

Vettel needs to learn he drives for a team first, and himself second. Rosberg managed it...

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[Lawrence]

Why, because he's second class (in the team's eyes) ?

Vettel needs to learn he drives for a team first, and himself second. Rosberg managed it...

Not at all.  Because Vettel was faster.

[richfzs]

The important thing, for the team, is 1-2. They had that, and the team decision, and team orders (which are allowed), were that they finish in the order they were running. Webber, then Vettel.

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[His Dudeness]

Team orders shouldn't be allowed imo. It's either a race or it isn't.

[Lawrence]

Team orders shouldn't be allowed imo. It's either a race or it isn't.

This.

Or should Vettel have to take a hit on points despite being faster than Webber? 

[richfzs]

That's a different question. Team orders used to be against the rules (and teams were penalised for using them). For whatever reason, the FIA decided to start allowing them. The teams, and drivers, have to work within those rules. Vettel didn't follow instructions from his boss, and even deliberately ignored them. Any other job, that would be a disciplinary, no different here!

If you don't like the rules, watch a different championship!

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[His Dudeness]

That's a different question. Team orders used to be against the rules (and teams were penalised for using them). For whatever reason, the FIA decided to start allowing them. The teams, and drivers, have to work within those rules. Vettel didn't follow instructions from his boss, and even deliberately ignored them. Any other job, that would be a disciplinary, no different here!

If you don't like the rules, watch a different championship!

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If a few more races finish up the way it did on the weekend with such blatant choreographing I'd say that's what people will do. Rosberg staying behind Hamilton was ridiculous. He could have sailed by Hamilton with no risk to either car. If Hamilton was under fueled tough shite! Why should Rosberg be penalised for that?

[richfzs]

You'd have to ask the team. Their call.

Anyways....

[His Dudeness]

You'd have to ask the team. Their call.

Anyways....

:lol

I'd say Vettel was gutted when he passed Webber and drove off into the distance :lol

[Grahamm]

If a few more races finish up the way it did on the weekend with such blatant choreographing I'd say that's what people will do. Rosberg staying behind Hamilton was ridiculous. He could have sailed by Hamilton with no risk to either car. If Hamilton was under fueled tough shite! Why should Rosberg be penalised for that?

When you're paid as much as you are by these teams, you do what you're told or you go and drive for someone else.

As for the Team Orders, this used to happen covertly in the past (some examples more blatant than others, admittedly), but they would have coded signals to tell the drivers what to do. There's really no way of stopping this, so you might as well bite the bullet and let it happen openly.

[His Dudeness]

I've a feeling they'll hang onto Vettel