10-10-12, 01:31 PM
Having been legally licence free for nearly 2 years I became a member of the TV Licence Resistence Forum as I, like many others, was annoyed at the TVL for refusing to believe I did not need a TVL and the constant hassle by post and door step visits they carried out.
I now need a TVL as I have moved and I'm in a house which has a TV set up to receive live TV broadcasts (the only reason you ever need one), so on the TVLR forum I advised that I had to buy a licence (they repeatedly advise members they do not advocate evasion, only LLF) and the problems that I was having trying to buy a licence for cash.
I did not want to give TVL my credit or debit card details, neither did i want to set up a direct debit, I just wanted to walk into a Post Office and buy a licence for my home (not possible as PO do not sell them anymore).
I then found out that I had to use Paypoint which I tried to do and was told by 3 different shops that I was not in the system - why would I be, I did not need a licence before? And that they could not sell me one unless I gave my details to TVL who would arrange it on line or over the phone.
This meant back to the option of debit/credit card or DD agreement which I don't want to do, why should TVL have the ability to automatically charge me each year when my circumstances might have changed or I might be a bit skint when they decide to take the money and cost me bank charges?
So I decided to report this on the TVLR forum - I have never seen such a pathetic cyber bullying reaction in my life, first I was ridiculed for having to buy a licence, then I was told as a BBC funder (depite my stating that I was buying it as I had to because I now lived with a TV watcher) I was not welcome, then I started collecting negative reputation points.
I put my points across clearly and stated that I just wanted to ask why the TVL has such an aversion to people wanting to pay cash for their TVL, I asked why they were being so negative and pointed out that their refusal to discuss anything other than being legally licence free completely undermines the site and the ability of it to spread the word.
Also I pointed out that just because I had to buy a TVL in line with their own advice it didn't mean I supported the BBC TVL and my views had not changed, if the forum was exclusively for legally licence free people then how could they expand knowledge and membership?
Next thing I'm banned and the two threads where the bullying by the mods was taking place were removed, admittedly I did state that I was leaving the site anyway as it was clear I was no longer welcome and in my last post tell the main mod to stick his site where the sun doesn't shine (those exact words, no swearing allowed on TVLR forum), but come on, this is pathetic cyber bullying at it's worst, do these people have no life at all and spend their entire time making 'friends' in cyber space to gang up on others or watching catch up TV on iplayer?
I used to recommend TVLR forum, now I have to say avoid them as the only information you ever need with the TVL is if you don't need one do not have any contact with TVL, if they visit say nothing and close the door on them and if they write throw it in the bin where it belongs - you don't need a load of impotent bullying cyber geeks to tell you that and jump on you if you dare discuss anything other than being legally licence free.
I now need a TVL as I have moved and I'm in a house which has a TV set up to receive live TV broadcasts (the only reason you ever need one), so on the TVLR forum I advised that I had to buy a licence (they repeatedly advise members they do not advocate evasion, only LLF) and the problems that I was having trying to buy a licence for cash.
I did not want to give TVL my credit or debit card details, neither did i want to set up a direct debit, I just wanted to walk into a Post Office and buy a licence for my home (not possible as PO do not sell them anymore).
I then found out that I had to use Paypoint which I tried to do and was told by 3 different shops that I was not in the system - why would I be, I did not need a licence before? And that they could not sell me one unless I gave my details to TVL who would arrange it on line or over the phone.
This meant back to the option of debit/credit card or DD agreement which I don't want to do, why should TVL have the ability to automatically charge me each year when my circumstances might have changed or I might be a bit skint when they decide to take the money and cost me bank charges?
So I decided to report this on the TVLR forum - I have never seen such a pathetic cyber bullying reaction in my life, first I was ridiculed for having to buy a licence, then I was told as a BBC funder (depite my stating that I was buying it as I had to because I now lived with a TV watcher) I was not welcome, then I started collecting negative reputation points.
I put my points across clearly and stated that I just wanted to ask why the TVL has such an aversion to people wanting to pay cash for their TVL, I asked why they were being so negative and pointed out that their refusal to discuss anything other than being legally licence free completely undermines the site and the ability of it to spread the word.
Also I pointed out that just because I had to buy a TVL in line with their own advice it didn't mean I supported the BBC TVL and my views had not changed, if the forum was exclusively for legally licence free people then how could they expand knowledge and membership?
Next thing I'm banned and the two threads where the bullying by the mods was taking place were removed, admittedly I did state that I was leaving the site anyway as it was clear I was no longer welcome and in my last post tell the main mod to stick his site where the sun doesn't shine (those exact words, no swearing allowed on TVLR forum), but come on, this is pathetic cyber bullying at it's worst, do these people have no life at all and spend their entire time making 'friends' in cyber space to gang up on others or watching catch up TV on iplayer?
I used to recommend TVLR forum, now I have to say avoid them as the only information you ever need with the TVL is if you don't need one do not have any contact with TVL, if they visit say nothing and close the door on them and if they write throw it in the bin where it belongs - you don't need a load of impotent bullying cyber geeks to tell you that and jump on you if you dare discuss anything other than being legally licence free.
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