(26-03-25, 11:40 PM)Grahamm Wrote: Yes, schools shouldn't cancel religious celebrations in case some group gets upset.
Therefore they should also celebrate Ramadan, Diwali, Channukka, Imbolc, Samhain, Eid Al Fitr, Yom Kippur etc etc, because it would only be the Woke people who would get upset or object to pupils at a school being forbidden from enjoying their faith's form of worship, wouldn't it...?
Certainly celebrate your faith in your own circle. If this nations celebrations upset anyone, they obviously came to the wrong country.
Whizz kid sitting pretty on his two wheeled stallion.
27-03-25, 11:41 AM
(This post was last modified: 27-03-25, 11:41 AM by Grahamm.)
Ah, right, they're welcome to come to our country as long as they are content to accept celebrations of *our* faith, but they have to celebrate *their* behind closed doors for fear that it might upset (some of) the rest of us.
(Waits for whataboutery arguments about what happens in other countries...)
(27-03-25, 11:41 AM)Grahamm Wrote: Ah, right, they're welcome to come to our country as long as they are content to accept celebrations of *our* faith, but they have to celebrate *their* behind closed doors for fear that it might upset (some of) the rest of us.
(Waits for whataboutery arguments about what happens in other countries...) The country I remember and enjoyed when I was younger, is gone forever for my generation. Younger folks would know no different, and would never understand the sadness felt for their own country by older people.
Whizz kid sitting pretty on his two wheeled stallion.
Yes, I like the sound of that Grahamm
That's nice for you both. The nurse will be along soon with your cocoa.
(27-03-25, 11:41 AM)Grahamm Wrote: Ah, right, they're welcome to come to our country as long as they are content to accept celebrations of *our* faith, but they have to celebrate *their* behind closed doors for fear that it might upset (some of) the rest of us.
(Waits for whataboutery arguments about what happens in other countries...)
(27-03-25, 09:08 PM)Grahamm Wrote: That's nice for you both. The nurse will be along soon with your cocoa.
Any chance of a biscuit or two?
The nurse may have had ginger nuts, because when they arrived they couldn’t decide whether they were Arthur or Martha, a set of traffic lights, or a pair of curtains. By this time the cocoa had gone cold and we went down the pub.
Whizz kid sitting pretty on his two wheeled stallion.
How dare people not fit into someone else's idea of what they should be.
FFS, children, I can't leave you alone for a few days!
Having lived in somebody else's country (not a holiday), we bent over backwards to NOT force our ways, our culture, our religious views on the host country and nor did we expect them to bend over backwards (upsetting the natives) to accommodate us in anyway.
We made every attempt to listen, observe and learn the ways of the locals, including learning the language and didn't expect government documents to be printed in 16 different languages.
This was well before Google translate and before the widespread use of the internet.
So, go to your rooms (with, or with cocoa) - as for Ginger Nuts, I don't think she has any............
It was also probably well before certain politicians and newspapers decided that populist scaremongering by making a big deal out of a minority of cases was a good tactic to push their agenda...
Nothing to do with politics Grahamm, just plain old good manners and respect
Everything to do with creating a culture of fear against "others".
LOL.....
We were living in Germany.........
You shopped German.
You ate German (I love schnitzel).
We lived among them - no special enclaves or areas.
You had to learn the German language to fill in forms for driving licence, banks etc.
Our child went to the local juniors school from day 1 - learnt German as he went along.
There were no specialist butchers processing meat specifically for Brits (and there were a lot of us in and around the Frankfurt area).
We adapted - and survived - and stronger for the experience.
But I still drive German! 
When you were living in Germany, did AfD exist? Or did they still remember the lessons of WWII and were determined not to repeat them?
(02-04-25, 09:51 AM)Grahamm Wrote: When you were living in Germany, did AfD exist? Or did they still remember the lessons of WWII and were determined not to repeat them?
AfD? Never heard of it.
WWII? Depending on the generation you spoke to as to whether they would chat about it. The generation that fought - they would talk about it, share the experiences and fill in the "gaps" in history. In fact, one afternoon, I had four people in the garden that had been on opposing sides and they got on like long lost friends!
The next generation - you know, the ones that weren't actually there, had no experiences etc were the ones that would deny everything happened - quietly.
The younger, more recent generation, have no clue about their countries past in depth. As they were educated by the in-between generation. They are not embarrassed by the actions of an Austrian (the Austrians deny he was Austrian!) and are hard working, hard partying. They have been raised with the concept that if you leave school and you have no job, then you are automatically conscripted into the army or you have to work in the local community (old peoples homes).
Had the country learnt the lesson - yes. Unlike this country that repeats itself like a broken record.
(03-04-25, 09:41 AM)fazerscotty Wrote: (02-04-25, 09:51 AM)Grahamm Wrote: When you were living in Germany, did AfD exist? Or did they still remember the lessons of WWII and were determined not to repeat them?
AfD? Never heard of it.
You should keep up with the news: Elon Musk congratulates AfD’s Alice Weidel on far-right gains in German election
Groups like that need someone to blame, someone to create fear about, someone to make a scapegoat for all of society's ills.
You're absolutely right about this country making the same mistakes...
Apparently I now qualify for an Over 60's Bus Pass!
(Can you take surf boards on buses...? )
(07-04-25, 11:09 AM)Grahamm Wrote: Apparently I now qualify for an Over 60's Bus Pass!
(Can you take surf boards on buses...? )
Surfing at 60? You're doing well. Use the pass while you can, Rachel From Accounts has her eye on that perk
I was out this afternoon at Bracklesham Bay, although it wasn't exactly pumping and I'm still recovering my endurance after picking up a cold (or something) when I was skiing in January, still, it was nice to get back on the water again.
Unfortunately it seems that the Over 60's Bus Pass is only a London thing, so I'll have to wait until I get my pension (I'm in no hurry!)
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