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perhaps they could introduce a passport system for hospital beds...no jab,no bed  Wink




i had the first jab a few weeks back, second one in 5 weeks time  :thumbup
One, is never going to be enough.....
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Quote: They won't speed up loosening restrictions ahead of the published road map because of the amount of stick they got for the timing of the last lock/unlock.
They got justified 'stick' because the last unlock was followed by a second wave which was worse than the first.


Slowly, slowly. Follow the science
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(03-05-21, 10:37 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=agricola link=topic=26604.msg324886#msg324886 date=1620037709]
[quote author=YamFazFan link=topic=26604.msg324885#msg324885 date=1620037158]

50 million UK Covid injections milestone due to be hit today.

Amazing achievement Smile .


Absolutely.


Had my second on Saturday, arm a little sore but that's expected.


Im just a little concerned about the brakes coming too early at the minute, we need to tighten the borders
[/quote]i guess you meant concerned brakes coming off too early.
I think things are being relaxed too slow. We were told get the vaccine to get life back to normal, we have kept our side of the deal and don't see much change yet. Summers coming people will be outside more, by the time things get relaxed we will be in another winter lockdoown.
I do think that we should keep the borders closed and seems stupid to think about allowing foreign holidays.
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and I'm pleased to report no side effects other than a slightly sore arm. Covid swab test this Saturday am, then surgery on Tuesday if clear
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(04-05-21, 01:08 PM)mtread link Wrote: Slowly, slowly. Follow the science
yes science--- pick one. How about this one.
https://metro.co.uk/2021/04/25/scientist...-14468154/
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(04-05-21, 10:58 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: On the subject of the conspiracy theorists who believe it's all a hoax and refuse the vaccine, I assume they will also reject a hospital bed if they fall seriously ill with all the symptoms?.

In the USA they've had people who have caught it and are lying in hospital beds on oxygen etc *still* claiming that it's all a hoax and they've just got Flu or something...
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(04-05-21, 04:35 PM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=mtread link=topic=26604.msg324910#msg324910 date=1620130124]
Quote: They won't speed up loosening restrictions ahead of the published road map because of the amount of stick they got for the timing of the last lock/unlock.
They got justified 'stick' because the last unlock was followed by a second wave which was worse than the first.
Haven't loads of countries had a second wave that's been worse than the first?. Germany, France and Italy for example. And look at the awful state India is in now.
They must have all got something wrong as well?.
[/quote]The CCP dictactors must be laughing watching every country point a finger at their own governments 
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Quote: Haven't loads of countries had a second wave that's been worse than the first?. Germany, France and Italy for example. And look at the awful state India is in now.They must have all got something wrong as well?.

Most of Europe's second wave has been attributed to the what is being referred to as the 'Kent variant'. But yes they also opened up at the wrong time.
India hardly lockdown at all. Modi encouraged crowds, and like Trump, dismissed the virus as a 'little flu'
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(05-05-21, 12:07 AM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: Haven't loads of countries had a second wave that's been worse than the first?. Germany, France and Italy for example. And look at the awful state India is in now.They must have all got something wrong as well?.

Most of Europe's second wave has been attributed to the what is being referred to as the 'Kent variant'. But yes they also opened up at the wrong time.
India hardly lockdown at all. Modi encouraged crowds, and like Trump, dismissed the virus as a 'little flu'
Trump actually said.
[color=rgb(51, 51, 51)][size=1em] "It's a little like a regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."[/size][/color]

And that was way back in Feb and he was proved essentially correct.
As for the EU, yes they have been blaming their problems on the UK because,as we know nothing is ever their fault.
Explain how they have more cases of the Kent variant than we do.
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(05-05-21, 10:50 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: Trump actually said.  "It's a little like a regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."

And that was way back in March and he was proved essentially correct.

Yes, of course. That's why the USA has had around *ten times* as many Covid deaths as flu deaths...

Quote:Explain how they have more cases of the Kent variant than we do.

A variant is called the [location] variant simply because that was the first place it was detected.

But some people like to try to blame people from that location, such as the idiots who attacked Chinese shops and people in the UK because Covid originated in China.
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(05-05-21, 11:01 AM)Grahamm link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg324937#msg324937 date=1620208255]
Trump actually said.  "It's a little like a regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we'll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner."

And that was way back in March and he was proved essentially correct.

Yes, of course. That's why the USA has had around *ten times* as many Covid deaths as flu deaths...

[/quote]A reminder for you. He said that in Feb 2020 (in my post I got it wrong as I said March ) but he actually said it on February 26 at which time the US had 60 cases.
Also on the same day 26th Feb TheWHO noted that "...14 countries that have had cases have not reported a case for more than a week, and even more importantly, 9 countries have not reported a case for more than two weeks: Belgium, Cambodia, Finland, India, Nepal, Philippines, the Russian Federation, Sri Lanka and Sweden.
So your attaching todays figures to what Trump said in Feb 2020 is basically fake news  Wink
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(05-05-21, 11:42 AM)YamFazFan link Wrote: [quote author=mtread link=topic=26604.msg324929#msg324929 date=1620169625]

Most of Europe's second wave has been attributed to the what is being referred to as the 'Kent variant'.


Why is that relevant?.


As Grahamm says, it's simply called that because it was the first place that particular variant was detected.
[/quote]Yes the EU were very quick to condemn Trump when he was calling it the Wuhan virus.But they are now quite happy to call it the Kent variant.
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Also the EU has recommended to let travellers enter to boost the tourism industry. So on one hand they are blaming the UK for their covid mess-up and at the same time wanting our tourist money. After years of calling British tourist all manner things they are now desperate for our money perhaps in the future they will not be so quick to bite the hand that feeds.
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Quote: Why is that relevant?.
As Grahamm says, it's simply called that because it was the first place that particular variant was detected.

Which is why our second wave preceded Europe's.
'We' thought it was all over during the summer. 'We' were too busy 'Eating Out To Spread It About'. The Science said beware of mutations, and we were too busy resurrecting the economy. So lots more people died.
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(05-05-21, 01:10 PM)mtread link Wrote:
Quote: Why is that relevant?.
As Grahamm says, it's simply called that because it was the first place that particular variant was detected.

we were too busy resurrecting the economy.
I hear that a lot from people who are not impacted by a failing economy.

Quote:'We' were too busy 'Eating Out To Spread It About'. The Science said beware of mutations,
Show me where the Government scientist warned the Government not to roll out eat out to help out.
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(05-05-21, 11:47 AM)fazersharp link Wrote: A reminder for you. He said that in Feb 2020 (in my post I got it wrong as I said March ) but he actually said it on February 26 at which time the US had 60 cases.
Also on the same day 26th Feb TheWHO noted that "...14 countries that have had cases have not reported a case for more than a week, and even more importantly, 9 countries have not reported a case for more than two weeks: Belgium, Cambodia, Finland, India, Nepal, Philippines, the Russian Federation, Sri Lanka and Sweden.
So your attaching todays figures to what Trump said in Feb 2020 is basically fake news  Wink

What on earth are you talking about??

You're saying "he was proved essentially correct" about what he said in February 2020, but "a little flu" doesn't cause almost 600,000 deaths!
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