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The Covid thread
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08-01-21, 02:35 PM
(08-01-21, 01:11 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: Why? If they told us to jump of a bridge would we do it without them demonstrating it was safe first? :pokefun Seriously though, it would be good PR for the vaccine
Another ex-Fazer rider that is a foccer again
08-01-21, 02:44 PM
(08-01-21, 12:58 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: [quote author=Oldgit link=topic=26604.msg322402#msg322402 date=1610104490]Personally I would like to see them all have it live on TV. [/quote] I dont think that would help anything personally. The people tbat already want the vaccine will get it and the people that don't for normal reasons won't. The other silver foil hatted conspiracy nut jobs will still come up with outlandish claims and make up any old tripe they can to justify it. They would just say its a placebo injection, that body doubles were being used or it was all film trickery ?♂️ Not to mention the majority of people that I have spoke too who do not wish to get the jab are people that don't believe or trust in the government anyway. If they were going to try and go to down that route then getting some idiot like Bieber or maybe a Footballer to have it live on TV would convince millions more than Boris ever could  (08-01-21, 02:35 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: If they told us to jump of a bridge would we do it without them demonstrating it was safe first? :pokefun I'm not a sheep, I can make up my own mind. I don't need to follow them, when you look at them, I wouldn't follow them anywhere, if you would or need to that's your choice :pokefun (08-01-21, 02:35 PM)BBROWN1664 link Wrote: Seriously though, it would be good PR for the vaccine It's just another vaccine, like the many others we've all had over the years. When smallpox, polo, BCG etc where rolled out did you, your parents or the masses question it and ask for others to go first? All this fear is just social media bolloc%% fake/disinformation put out by total idiots with too much time on their hands. These morons, both anti vax and conspiracy theory twats have got way too much influence, over social media sheep. Examples of which we've seen outside hospitals and storming the US Congress in recent days, let's not even go there with Brexit crap. I for one don't need PR or any of the current government leading me in any direction. I don't use or follow social media, it's rapidly becoming utterly counter productive. Various media watchdogs put figures of anywhere between 20 - 60% depending on subject, of fake or disinformation being circulated on social media platforms, the sooner it's regulated or better still turned off the better 
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08-01-21, 03:51 PM
(08-01-21, 02:44 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: If they were going to try and go to down that route then getting some idiot like Bieber or maybe a Footballer to have it live on TV would convince millions more than Boris ever could :agree Sadly that's what social media and celeb TV world has created, many would rather listen and follow a singer or soap actor than a scientist :rollin :rollin :rollin
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08-01-21, 05:17 PM
People seem to forget that the flu jab is modified EVERY year to try and cope with the most recent strains, so it is hardly tested for long periods of time at all.
Which is why some years you might get the odd very minor side effect, but for most years you don't.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
08-01-21, 05:36 PM
(08-01-21, 05:17 PM)darrsi link Wrote: People seem to forget that the flu jab is modified EVERY year to try and cope with the most recent strains, so it is hardly tested for long periods of time at all. :agree
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09-01-21, 02:58 PM
09-01-21, 09:06 PM
Had my vaccine part one this morning,the place was packed but not like a sardine can ,it was all well organised with volunteers doing the 10,15 mins wait after in a marquee ,considering the amount of people there it was pretty slick IMO.No after effects as yet. :thumbup
never look down on anyone unless you're helping them up.
09-01-21, 11:32 PM
Had a phone call Wed teatime asking if I would like the vaccine Thurs afternoon at a local health centre. They also asked my wife if she would like the vaccine at the same time. We both said yes asI am classed as clinically extremely vulnerable and my wife has had serious health issues. We both turned up and all went smoothly. We just had to wait for 15 mins afterwards to make sure we had no adverse reaction to the vaccine. Apart from a slight bruise at injection site we are both fine (so far).
My view is that we owe our lives to the skills of men and women working in the NHS and the pharmaceutical industry-I wouldn't be alive to write this without them. Yes it's a pain not being able to do things we used to take for granted but if we all do our bit we can come out the other side. We would rather suffer the inconveniences of the present lockdown than be an unnecessary burden on the health service when they are faced with an unprecedented emergency. 
10-01-21, 02:47 PM
Pleased for you both Dave and Coffee.Any side effects at all as yet
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
10-01-21, 04:02 PM
No side effects yet apart from the usual minor bruising at injection site. It looks as though the UK is doing comparatively well with the vaccination program when looking at how some other so-called advanced countries are performing.
However we don't have any false sense of security and will continue with our shielding precautions-the vaccine is one tool in the fight against the virus.
11-01-21, 11:18 AM
(10-01-21, 02:47 PM)fazersharp link Wrote: Pleased for you both Dave and Coffee.Any side effects at all as yet There won't be, and even if there was that doesn't in the slightest mean that those effects would apply to you as well. Same as when you get medicine prescribed by a doctor that comes with a leaflet pointing out the vast "possible" side effects, which basically means that some poor sod around the world had an adverse reaction and to avoid prosecution they have to list it as a precautionary measure. I had to take some antibiotics two weeks ago that i don't think i've ever had before, and the long list of side effects made absolutely terrible reading to the point where i questioned even wanting to consume them, but as per usual they were totally fine.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
11-01-21, 03:27 PM
I didn't mean "side effects" as such like the question implies, but just anything really.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
11-01-21, 04:36 PM
(11-01-21, 11:18 AM)darrsi link Wrote: [quote author=fazersharp link=topic=26604.msg322521#msg322521 date=1610286463] There won't be, and even if there was that doesn't in the slightest mean that those effects would apply to you as well. Same as when you get medicine prescribed by a doctor that comes with a leaflet pointing out the vast "possible" side effects, which basically means that some poor sod around the world had an adverse reaction and to avoid prosecution they have to list it as a precautionary measure. I had to take some antibiotics two weeks ago that i don't think i've ever had before, and the long list of side effects made absolutely terrible reading to the point where i questioned even wanting to consume them, but as per usual they were totally fine. [/quote] Its luck of the draw really, same as with any vaccine. My wife for example gets the flu jab every year (as she's asthmatic and works in the hospital) and has done for the past 10 years or so. Now out of those 10 jabs 9 have been completely fine but 1 of them caused adverse effects and put her in hospital for 4 days on a respirator. Didnt stop her getting it again but as with most of these things there is always a risk. I know a few people that have had the vaccine and felt quite ill for 24-48hrs after but also plenty that haven't had any reaction at all. Its just one of those things ?♂️ What i want to know is whether this is going to be a yearly jab like the other flu one. Are we going to be going forward with the elderly etc getting 2 jabs every winter instead of one? I reckon there's a good chance that's going to be the case but hopefully we can go know as normal every year instead of locking down and hiding all winter
11-01-21, 05:24 PM
(11-01-21, 04:36 PM)Dudeofrude link Wrote: What i want to know is whether this is going to be a yearly jab like the other flu one. Are we going to be going forward with the elderly etc getting 2 jabs every winter instead of one? I reckon there's a good chance that's going to be the case but hopefully we can go know as normal every year instead of locking down and hiding all winterNo one seems to be talking about this but my feeling is that yes that is what will happen. It will be here for ever.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
11-01-21, 05:25 PM
Flu and Covid vaccines are very different beasts. Flu vaccines are based on a live part of the real virus all be it very small part, Covid isn't completely different, no live virus, reactions should and thus far are proving to be very mild or nothing.
There's always going to be someone who reacts to something, food e.g. nuts, chemical etc etc, nowadays there's people who're elegiac to fresh air! It's all being completely over played :rolleyes
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11-01-21, 06:05 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-01-21, 07:09 PM by fazersharp.)
Getting a bit fed up with people ringing the radio and saying "why is it safe for me to ---" just heard another one an estate agent. "Why is it safe for me to visit 5 houses a day but I cant visit my Mum and Dad". And they then start with the "everything should be locked down" It then every time emerges that they live with a vulnerable person or something. They want everything shut down to suit them.
What I think we have now is a balance but perhaps we also need some sort of voluntary furlough until their vulnerable person has had the vaccine. Another one "why can I meet my Mum in a park but not in a garden" --- Cause it starts in the garden, next its, a cup of tea then its needing the loo then its actually cold - lets just sit inside. - That's why.
I don't do rain or threat there of. dry rider only with no shame.
11-01-21, 07:53 PM
(11-01-21, 05:25 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: Flu and Covid vaccines are very different beasts. Flu vaccines are based on a live part of the real virus all be it very small part, Covid isn't completely different, no live virus, reactions should and thus far are proving to be very mild or nothing. Live virus vaccines are normally given to youngsters from early age into their teens, mainly by using a nasal spray. The standard flu jabs given by needle are deactivated.
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
11-01-21, 09:16 PM
(11-01-21, 07:53 PM)darrsi link Wrote: The standard flu jabs given by needle are deactivated. No, they're live just not, the complete strand, but parts of real virus as are most types of vaccine.
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12-01-21, 02:49 PM
(11-01-21, 09:16 PM)Gnasher link Wrote: [quote author=darrsi link=topic=26604.msg322557#msg322557 date=1610391210] No, they're live just not, the complete strand, but parts of real virus as are most types of vaccine. [/quote] .
More people are born because of alcohol than will ever die from it.
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