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[Dudeofrude]

Good to know.
Hope yours is up and running again soon Dude.

Hopefully by the weekend as long as the postman doesn't dawdle (like he has been with the gasket I ordered on Friday with 24hr delivery no less ?)

On that note I couldn't believe that the company I ordered the parts from charged me £6 shipping! Spent £350 with them and they don't even offer to send it for free!? Shocking in this day and age

[VNA]

I find a lot of 24hr services are no quicker than the budget option.
I figure often the tick box is just there in case you fancy paying extra.

And don't start me on the post office.  They just love to try and sell you their rip off insurance.

You know if their insurance rates were reasonable I'd take it out everytime, but it's just a pure rip off, and then their staff are trained to write 'customer advised' on your receipt to further pressurise you into taking their insurance.

Now I'll tell them what I'm sending (I suppose it's fair to ask to check that what you are sending is safe) but I refuse to discuss value.  Just give me recorded delivery please. 

[killerwhaleTRX]

[quote author=Fazian link=topic=26287.msg316941#msg316941 date=1593189291]
I got my gasket here, the packet it came in had a genuine Yamaha sticker on it but it did cost me £16 with postage.


http://www.manhattanmotorcycles.co.uk/p/...se-cover-1

Cheers for the link ?
[/quote]


From memory, our rectifiers are known to bloody melt are they not? I would check that for sure....

[Dudeofrude]

Well for anyone that needs to know. This is what an upgraded rotor looks like ?

[Dudeofrude]

Also for anyone thats thinking thinking about it, replacing the stator is an absolute arse of a job ? just started it but going to have to finish it tomorrow. For a start the the 3 bolts holding it into the engine case have been put in with factory loctite and as such do not like to be undone (so that was a 15 minute job trying to get them out) and then after finally getting them undone I realised its going to be a complete tank off job to get access too the old cable/plug and be able to reroute the new one ?
Then as another annoyance, the old gasket is a ball ache to get off too. I spend 20 minutes with a Stanley blade trying to get it all off.
All in all a lot of effort for something I may have not needed to do (I cleaned up the magnets on the old one and turns out they aren't damaged ?‍♂️)
But as with all this kind of stuff if your going to go to the effort of doing it, you may aswell do it all properly to save having to do it again

[b1k3rdude]

nice tats.

[Dudeofrude]

nice tats.

Bet you say that to all the girls ?

But what you on about? None of my tattoos are on show? Haha

[Fazian]

I found it fairly easy but I didn't have to change the generator only the rotor. I agree about the gasket it must have took me about half an hr to get that off as it was a right pain...


The bolts holding mine on were easy to undo and I didn't put any threadlock on when I refitted either  :eek

[Dudeofrude]

I found it fairly easy but I didn't have to change the generator only the rotor. I agree about the gasket it must have took me about half an hr to get that off as it was a right pain...


The bolts holding mine on were easy to undo and I didn't put any threadlock on when I refitted either  :eek

I was referring to the bolts holding the generator in. The rotor was a simple in and out job. Its the generator thats proving to be a bastard to replace haha

[Dudeofrude]

Well we have success ??

Took an hour of faffing about with the stator but got there in the end.
A point worth mentioning for anyone who orders a stator from that company (RMStators)... the lead is about 2 inches smaller than the original and as such you have to be really inventive with the routing otherwise you won't be able to screw your rectifier back in the same place. Also the plug is maybe 1cm shallower so it doesn't look like it's clipped in, but does work ?

Anyways just an oil change to go then ill be back on the road
Thanks again for all the help guys. Just shows once you take away then politics then this is still a great Motorbike forum after all ??

[Dynspud]

Result  :thumbup
Pleased for you mate.

[Gnasher]

Glad you got it sorted mate 

[PieEater]

Well done on getting it fixed  :thumbup , pretty epic journey from start to finish, thanks for sharing.

[ogri48]

absolute result and nicely done dude
and yeah, its a great site

[Fazian]

Glad it's sorted mate  :thumbup

[VNA]

Excellant :thumbup

[Dudeofrude]

Thanks for the well wishes guys. Still not got round to an oil change yet so not had her back on the road (weathers been shite anyways)
I made the effort to contact Yamaha about this issue and this is their response.....


Thank you for your email, regarding the Rotor on your 2007 model Yamaha FZ1.

In relation to your enquiry, we can advise, that individual parts from time to time, may indeed be subject to some form of evolution. This is part of Yamaha’s policy of constantly monitoring the quality and performance of its components and as such, it is not unusual for a part to be changed or updated at some stage, during or after, any models production.

Whilst we can advise that there is no Recall in relation to the Rotor on your machine and your warranty has expired, we are sometimes able to offer some form of 'out of warranty' assistance. Any requests for 'out of warranty' assistance are generally dealt with on a case by case basis through our UK Yamaha dealer network, prior to any repair being carried out, where due consideration is given to the circumstances of the claim, including but not limited to, the age, miles covered, service history and whether there was any previous history of such a problem. The first stage of the process, is that the owner would arrange and authorise an inspection of their area of concern at a Yamaha motorcycle dealer, also providing them details of their Service History. Subsequently, should the dealer identify and consider there to be evidence of a manufacturing defect, they may then contact our Warranty Department, on behalf of the customer, regarding any available assistance.

In this instance therefore, should you believe that your Rotor is subject to a manufacturing defect, we would kindly suggest, that you please re-establish contact with your local Yamaha dealer to authorise an inspection of your machine and providing them your Service History. After their inspection, should the dealer identify a manufacturing defect with your Rotor and consider there to be the possibility of 'out of warranty assistance' they will then be in a position to contact us with their findings, for our consideration, regarding a replacement Rotor part, possibly at a discounted/special price.

We thank you for your enquiry and whilst at this point we can offer no assurance of assistance, we hope that our comments may at least clarify the manner in which we proceed with machines whose warranty has expired and hope that through your Yamaha dealer, this matter may be resolved.



So expected there won't be much getting done (especially since I've already repaired it) my local Yammy dealer aren't going to be of any help to me unless I'm buying a bike so guess that's that.
I'm not too fussed as imo its just part of owning a used vehicle.
I suppose if it happens to anyone else and they take it straight to the dealer then they might stand a chance at a small discount off the parts or something? ?‍♂️

[mtread]

Why don't you take all the new parts back out, put all the old parts back in and take it along to the dealer? 

[Dudeofrude]

Why don't you take all the new parts back out, put all the old parts back in and take it along to the dealer? 

Because
A. I cant be arsed
B. Its not worth the hassle and
C. All they are offering is a potential discount on buying a new rotor from them

But although useless to me it might help someone to know it for future reference

[b1k3rdude]

• In relation to your enquiry, we can advise, that individual parts from time to time, may indeed be subject to some form of evolution. This is part of Yamaha’s policy of constantly monitoring the quality and performance of its components and as such, it is not unusual for a part to be changed or updated at some stage, during or after, any models production.
  
• Whilst we can advise that there is no Recall in relation to the Rotor on your machine and your warranty has expired, we are sometimes able to offer some form of 'out of warranty' assistance. Any requests for 'out of warranty' assistance are generally dealt with on a case by case basis through our UK Yamaha dealer network,
  
• The first stage of the process, is that the owner would arrange and authorise an inspection of their area of concern at a Yamaha motorcycle dealer, also providing them details of their Service History. Subsequently, should the dealer identify and consider there to be evidence of a manufacturing defect, they may then contact our Warranty Department, on behalf of the customer, regarding any available assistance.
  
• In this instance therefore, should you believe that your Rotor is subject to a manufacturing defect, we would kindly suggest, that you please re-establish contact with your local Yamaha dealer to authorise an inspection of your machine and providing them your Service History. After their inspection, should the dealer identify a manufacturing defect with your Rotor and consider there to be the possibility of 'out of warranty assistance' they will then be in a position to contact us with their findings, for our consideration, regarding a replacement Rotor part, possibly at a discounted/special price.
  
• We thank you for your enquiry and whilst at this point we can offer no assurance of assistance, we hope that our comments may at least clarify the manner in which we proceed with machines whose warranty has expired and hope that through your Yamaha dealer, this matter may be resolved.
  

I like yamaha but -

• That is some class-A marketing bullshit right there. Monitoring? the fuckers superseded the part because it had a known major fault with it!!
  
• Because they superseded the part on the fucking quiet. In my exp. normally when a part gets superseded its not drastically different from its predecessor, this was not the case in this instance.
  
• More blah blah copy and pasted marketing/corpo fuckery.
  
• Why the actuall fuck do you need to present a service history, the bike is out warranty. This smacks of classic smoke and mirrors and get out clause - eg the old well you have no service history so sorry we cant even consider helping you fucking bullshit. Fyi even if the bike had never been serviced in its life that would never effect the a known hardware fault present from the day it rolled out of the factory.
  
• 'Should you believe'.... I cant beleive what Im reading here. What complete and utter cunt-fuckery. They know FULL fucking well the part in-question has a major fault, otherwise the part would never have been superseded with a noticeably different part.
  
• And there we go..... falling back on the final exit clause. Pushing the responsibility on to the dealer. If Yamaha aren't going to do fuck-all, then why the fuck would the dealer do so, cunts.
  

Rant over.

And as you suspected, the discount would be no where near the £215 for the pattern part.